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Conflict sapping forces' morale
BBC ^ | Mar 28, 2003 | Andrew North

Posted on 03/28/2003 1:27:39 PM PST by Diddley

Here on the frontline this conflict is taking its toll on morale. I can see the signs in the US marines I am with outside Nasiriyah.

Quite a few of the troops have said to me that this isn't what they were expecting. They have had a tiring week of guerrilla-style fighting and it continues. They are frustrated that their political masters gave the American public the impression that it would be easier than it's turned out to be.

But, also that they should have given them more expectation about Iraqi resistance like this. They don't want to admit they can't deal with it, but I think there is definitely a sense that it is not the kind of fighting that they were really trained for. One Marine told me: "I've had enough of being fired at from all directions, I just want to go home". I thought it quite a surprising thing to say.

Appalling conditions
I think the other problem is the conditions here. There were major sandstorms earlier in the week, which created an appalling amount of dust. What has followed are Marines waking up every day in a very muddy campsite. The dust has settled but they are surrounded by mudflats and rubbish dumps.

Some Marines are literally camped on top of garbage, and the amount of flies around at times is quite depressing. The Marines would say that they are trained for tough conditions, so they can take this kind of thing. All Marines eat MRE's, which are ready-to-eat meals. They come in sealed brown plastic bags, about the size of a well-padded filofax. Three of these a day should be enough for the average Marine.

They come in all types of different varieties, beef stew, chicken with noodles, chicken with salsa, and slightly strange sounding things called formed turkey. I've had that and I'm not totally convinced it is turkey. There are a lot of vegetarian meals, but over a long time they're boring, and they're not fresh. Injured colleagues

On top of their poor living conditions you have to consider the effect of seeing colleagues injured, particularly after a surprise rocket attack here the other day which left 30 Marines wounded. I was there when a lot of the injured were being brought in. Most of them had shrapnel wounds. Some are now believed to have wounds from their own side because of friendly fire that broke out in the confusion afterwards.

But seeing their injured colleagues has undermined the mood here, and makes these soldiers feel exposed. All around Nasiriyah is flat land, you can see Iraqi civilians walking around US positions. Now it's come to the point that when Marines see any Iraqi civilians, they think of them as being possibly hostile. It puts them on edge.

I've been around Nasiriyah for a week, and the roads I was travelling on at the beginning of that time were thought to have little risk. Now they're seen as very dangerous, hostile territory. Marines travel around scanning the roadsides at all times, guns to the ready. There are reports of renewed Iraqi resistance south of here.

Areas they've travelled through, that too is demoralising, especially to the younger soldiers. Reinforcements One thing that's certainly had an effect is the news that the Pentagon is deploying another 120,000 troops. It made Marines here realise that it could be quite a long conflict. Their style and esprit-de-corps is very strong, and they say that they can take this and fight on. I was talking to a senior officer about the long term effect on the Marines. He told me: "Sure they're stretched, they're tired, but they haven't been stretched to the limit yet.

"Don't think this is the end of the US Marines, just because they're receiving a slightly different type of resistance to the one they expected."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: barbrastreisand; conflict; embeddedreport; fragandrewnorth; morale; nasiriyah; roadtobaghdad; sandstorms; sapping; sappingforcesmorale; weakestlinkmedia
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1 posted on 03/28/2003 1:27:39 PM PST by Diddley
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To: Diddley
The BBC continues its delusional spiral.
2 posted on 03/28/2003 1:29:41 PM PST by horse_doc
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To: Diddley
Their style and esprit-de-corps is very strong, and they say that they can take this and fight on.
3 posted on 03/28/2003 1:29:41 PM PST by AHerald
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To: Diddley
Well, let's just all go home then.


4 posted on 03/28/2003 1:30:28 PM PST by Huck
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To: Diddley
They don't want to admit they can't deal with it

Perhaps they're not "admitting" they can't deal with it because they're dealing with it quite well.

Classic propaganda from the Baghdad Broadcasting Corporation.

5 posted on 03/28/2003 1:30:45 PM PST by Numbers Guy
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To: horse_doc
The BBC continues its delusional spiral.

Absolutely.

6 posted on 03/28/2003 1:31:27 PM PST by Diddley (Liberals: If you have a good story, why lie?)
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To: horse_doc
Don't believe this until you hear it from FNC, or similar.
7 posted on 03/28/2003 1:31:28 PM PST by expatpat
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To: Diddley
Ok, so first they're depressed because there aren't enough troops for the hostile conditions. Then, upon hearing that reinforcements are coming, they are depressed because that means the war will take longer...

Please...

8 posted on 03/28/2003 1:31:37 PM PST by danneskjold (Laker Hater)
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To: Diddley
Email this to the Marines in Iraq, and watch when "accidents" happen to this jerk.

"Gee, sorry, didn't see you there" as the taigate of the 5 ton truck falls on his head.

9 posted on 03/28/2003 1:32:31 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Numbers Guy
Diet could be worse, WWII vets fought for 6 years on c rations!
10 posted on 03/28/2003 1:33:36 PM PST by wingnuts'nbolts (I see the world and my surroundings in a new light and I still hate all things Clinton)
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To: Diddley
Anyone see O'Reilly's piece on the BBC last night on Fox?
11 posted on 03/28/2003 1:33:48 PM PST by TADSLOS (Sua Sponte)
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To: Diddley
Drivel. Written by a reporter who has the luxury of going home whenever he wants to. Who the hell likes getting shot at? I'm sure that even as tough at US Marines are, that stuff isn't too cool. However, this doesn't mean we're packing up and moving out. This guy needs to go home and march with his anti war friends, he'd be of more use there.
12 posted on 03/28/2003 1:33:59 PM PST by zingzang
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To: Huck
I call this giving aid and comfort to the enemy.They call it jounalism. God bless our troops.
13 posted on 03/28/2003 1:34:40 PM PST by MEG33
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To: Diddley
They knew they were going to a war, but they didn't expect any fighting.

Methinks Andrew North is projecting.

14 posted on 03/28/2003 1:35:04 PM PST by dead
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15 posted on 03/28/2003 1:35:05 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Diddley
The troops "political masters?" WTF??? What garbage this is.
16 posted on 03/28/2003 1:36:47 PM PST by Rightone
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To: Diddley
I take anything from the BBC with a grain of salt. Their slanted and negative reporting on this war has already been criticized.
17 posted on 03/28/2003 1:38:52 PM PST by Jorge
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>>>Some Marines are literally camped on top of garbage, and the amount of flies around at times is quite depressing.

This is a little much.

But the BBC seems to know a lot about garbage these days. Whatever happened to the BBC. Captured by the leftover Soviets I guess.

snooker
18 posted on 03/28/2003 1:38:57 PM PST by snooker
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To: Diddley
One Marine told me: "I've had enough of being fired at from all directions, I just want to go home". I thought it quite a surprising thing to say.

ALL Marines want to go home, Andy, you just happpened to interview ONE who might be a pussy.

Most will stand their ground and do their job just like the Patriots who kicked your ancestors' limey asses over 200 years ago.

19 posted on 03/28/2003 1:39:02 PM PST by JimVT
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To: Diddley
They are frustrated that their political masters gave the American public the impression
that it would be easier than it's turned out to be.


Huh?
Maybe the writer Andrew North managed to find a malcontent Marine...
but my brain is straining to recall ANY quote from Dubya/Cheney/Powell/Rice/Rummy etc.
promising any sort of timeline, let alone an easy (and/or quick) outcome.

To the contrary...since 9-11, Dubya has said that this is a different kind of war...
and will likely go on for a long time.

Not to mention yesterday's press conference in which Dubya and Blair answered
basically the same four-year-old's question from two different reporters
(i.e., "Are we there yet?").
Dubya and Blair (in a more distinguished voice) said that this thing will be
over when we've won.
And not before!
20 posted on 03/28/2003 1:39:25 PM PST by VOA
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