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To: Magnum44
I am still not sure about my primary reason for asking, that is, if your topped off and you enter into a battle, how many hours can you plan to engage, say another tank outfit on the field, before you have to retire for more gas?

As per the lengthy response above, it depends. But if I get my druthers, I'll take them from *cold* positions radiating no heat or electronic signiture, preferably in dug-in turret defilade [just the main gun ant top of the turret above the ground] and hopefully against a dumb and greedy enemy intent on some other distraction, like a bunch of empty fuel tankers parked around some obsolete tanks or infantry vehicles deployed like they're refueling, a tanker's dream target. And ideally I'll be using gun or rocket systems with a longer range than those of the adversaries, from beyond their effective return fire capability, and with followup artillery and air support on call as needed. They will have a real bad day at the office.

The aviator's equivalent used to be an attack from above, from out of the sun, but 50-mile range standoff *fire-and-forget* missiles have changed that game somewhat.

I think like an aviator, probably because I am, in that if the enemy were to throw huge numbers of inferior aircraft at me, I need to know how long I can sustain myself before I have to be relieved to find a tanker. I gather from your answer that depending on the condition of your air filters, your burn rate can be significantly different.

Among many different factors, including terrain, the ability of the driver, wet or dry offroad conditions, altitude and temperature. Just as fuel management is critical for an aviator, so too it is for a tanker- and especially for either of them that have a big thirsty turbine gulping the fuel down. And both can be fitted with varieties of auxilliary *drop tanks* as well, and getting rid of those fuel containers at the first sign that hostilities are at hand is foremost on the mind of either the combat tanker or aviator so encumbered.

There's another similarity between the treadheads and birdmen, too: the speed and maneuverability of the Abrams has brought about a reduction in the size of the tank platoon from 5 tanks to 4, arranged in pairs of a *lead* and his *wingman.* Likewise the Headquarters Company tank section has been reduced from three to another lead/wingman paired team. I expect you'd find the tactics similar if not identical, and yes, tankers know what an OODA loop is too.

See the following, and see if those described don't remind you of a well-functioning aircrew.

-archy-/-

82 posted on 03/28/2003 11:24:26 AM PST by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: archy
Thanks much.
83 posted on 03/28/2003 11:29:12 AM PST by Magnum44 (Duty, Honor, Country)
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