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Biggest British tank battle since El Alamein
The Times ^ | March 28, 2003 | David Charter and Alan Hamilton

Posted on 03/27/2003 4:19:08 PM PST by MadIvan

Challengers wipe out column of Iraqi T55s after chance encounter in Basra desert

THE morning sun was up, the fog of war had briefly lifted. In the distance, a moving cloud of dust betrayed a column of armour on the move.

Twenty miles southeast of Basra, 14 Challenger 2 tanks of C Squadron, Royal Scots Dragoon Guards, were on their way to reinforce 3 Commando Brigade, Royal Marines on al-Faw peninsula.

They were not expecting tanks from the north; they had another mission in mind. But they had reached the position they were in only because of some speedy and brilliant bridge building by 28 Regiment, Royal Engineers, to get them across the obstacle of the Basra Canal.

Long-range spotters with the Dragoon Guards peered at the dust cloud; distinctive lumps on the distant armour immediately identified it as a column of Iraqi T55 tanks. The Scots crews were about to engage in the biggest — and most decisive — tank battle fought by the British since El Alamein in the Second World War.

The Iraqi column, which had moved south out of Basra, had already been pounded by air bombardment and artillery. Remnants were trying to disperse across open countryside. When the approaching armour had been spotted and identified, the Dragoon Guards, who had been travelling from west to east, split into two groups of seven tanks each as they closed in on the enemy.

One group came across a troop of Iraqi T55s in the process of being deserted as their occupants realised they were being overwhelmed by air and ground assaults. The other tempted the enemy into a “kill box” in a classic hunter-killer battlefield technique.

They lured the Iraqi squadron into believing they were being attacked only by a light infantry unit of commandos. But when the old Russian-built tanks made themselves visible in a wooded area, the Challengers moved in from the flank and began picking them off one by one at a range of about 1,500 metres.

“This was shock action. It was 14 against 14, and the score was 14-nil,” a military spokesman at UK National Contingent headquarters in Qatar said after the brief encounter, which is now regarded as one of the most decisive actions by ground forces in the war so far. “It was nothing less than a suicide mission by the Iraqis; it had no military logic,” the spokesman said.

The T55s, an upgraded version of an old Soviet warhorse dating back to 1955, stood little chance against the Challengers. The British tanks opened fire simultaneously, firing up to six rounds a minute with deadly accuracy while still bouncing over the rough ground at 25mph.

Their advanced stabilisation system, the best of its kind, keeps the gun steady and aimed even when the vehicle is jolting over rocky terrain. The T55s, which cannot fire effectively on the move and have to stop to take an accurate shot, had no chance.

Inside the 61-ton Challengers, the gunners were using the world’s most sophisticated tank targeting system, using a console similar to that on a PlayStation computer game to pick out targets at will. Commanders say this system is loved by young crews used to the non-stop action of computer battle games.

But this was no game. The Challengers were firing depleted uranium shells that drill through armour to create a vacuum and incredible heat inside the target, sucking all air and life from it.

Inside the Challengers, the well-rehearsed, clinically efficient process of aiming, loading, firing and reloading was repeated 14 times. The encounter was over in a matter of minutes. All 14 Iraqi tanks were destroyed, and all 14 British, each with a four-man crew, escaped unscathed.

One British commander denied that the engagement had been a “turkey shoot”, with the enemy standing no chance. “If you see the enemy you do not wait for them to shoot first,” he said.

“This was what we call a ‘meeting engagement’ because the two forces just ran into each other. We were moving from west to east to reinforce the Royal Marines on the east side of Basra when we happened to bump into 14 T55s which were coming from the north to the south towards Umm Qsar.” Another tank officer said that the engagement had been “like the bicycle against the motor car”.

Among the Dragoon Guards there was jubilation and not a little nationalistic pride. “This is what we’ve been waiting for, and this is what Scotland’s cavalry does the best,” a regimental spokesman said.

“Until now we felt as though we had been left somewhat on the sidelines, now now we’ve had some serious tank-on-tank action that has really got the guys buzzing.”

The spokesman added: “To take out 14 tanks, which is the equivalent of an entire British squadron, is a massive achievement. It’s a severe blow to what is already a hugely demoralised army, and hopefully it might tempt some of the hard cases currently in Basra to think again.”

The mood among C Squardon was one of euphoria last night. Captain Patrick Trueman, of the Dragoon Guards, shared the moment of jubiliation.

“This has been a famous victory and one which should go down in the regiment’s history. Everyone here is delighted at the efforts of C Squadron, which have given the entire battle group a massive boost ahead of some very trying times.”

By yesterday afternoon British officers were describing the area south of Basra as “a T55 graveyard” after a series of coalition strikes that have left dozens of burnt-out Iraqi vehicles littering the terrain.

However, US Central Command admitted that reports of a giant column of more than 100 armoured vehicles charging out of Basra on Wednesday night were grossly exaggerated because of a false electronic surveillance signal.

It was, US commanders said, a classic example of the fog of war. “We determined it was a different-sized force, and we destroyed it,” a US military spokesman said.

The daylight foray by Iraqi tanks yesterday morning may have been an attempt to test the strength of British forces enclircling Basra, or a vain attempt to relieve the southern port of Uum Qsar, British sources believe.

Alternatively, they believe, the Iraqi tactic, carried out by press-ganged crews, may be to engage in regular confrontations, however suicidal, because images or reports of fighting play well in the Arab world.

But it was from military headquarters all the way back to the Dragoon Guards’ Scots homeland that yesterday’s confrontation played exceptionally well.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: basra; blair; bush; challenger2; elalamein; iraq; saddam; t55; t55s; turkeyshoot; uk; us; war
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To: patented
Biggest BRITISH tank battle?...was it a part of the Breakout Battle of Normandy in July/August w/Gens. Omar & Patton in the lead?
81 posted on 03/27/2003 6:06:58 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because your paranoid,doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. :)
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To: Michael.SF.
Didn't the Scots Greys charge without infantry costing them everything but immortal valor?

We must remember that Iran's mafia mullahs are watching us with at least one corps of new '90's vintage Russian armour, including hundreds of all but state-of-the-art T-90s. Only our nukes could stop a full Iranian flanking charge. Our carrier groups are angels to our troops.

Our mortal enemies have been at war with us since 1979. Now we are at war with them, and it must hurt. Our best warriors will humiliate the Sword of Islam's best, who have no Rules of Engagement or humanity. They ain't seen Shock & Awe yet.

BTW, I'd call it a turkey shoot, since they're mucking up the north.
82 posted on 03/27/2003 6:10:32 PM PST by SevenDaysInMay
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To: MadIvan
But the headline is horsefeathers. Operation Goodwood anyone? This probably doesn't even pass Brit actions in Gulf War I. Headline writers know essential zero about history, but for some reason can't seem to resist the urge to blather on about it.
83 posted on 03/27/2003 6:16:29 PM PST by JasonC
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To: tophat9000; MadIvan
Why don't you check with someone up in Canada. They stopped flying them up there when they decided to become a third world country.
84 posted on 03/27/2003 6:22:07 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: MadIvan
“This was shock action. It was 14 against 14, and the score was 14-nil,”

Huzzah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
85 posted on 03/27/2003 6:23:27 PM PST by gcruse (If they truly are God's laws, he can enforce them himself.)
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To: Spruce
Re: "The Challenger II is more than capable of going toe-to-toe with the M1A1."

Let's load up some big PAINTBALL rounds and have a few of them duke it out just for sport, eh?

After the war's over, of course.

86 posted on 03/27/2003 6:24:49 PM PST by Uncle Jaque ("You boys think that War is all glory; I am here to tell you; War is all HELL!" WTS)
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To: MadIvan
It was 14 against 14, and the score was 14-nil

GOAL!

Way to go, U.K.

Those Challenger tanks and their crews must be very good.

87 posted on 03/27/2003 6:28:49 PM PST by LibKill (The UN is of less use than dog doo in the gutter.)
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To: Amerigomag
Considering that the Enigma intercepts meant that he knew every move Rommel was going to make -- and had a huge numerical advantage -- Monty did not do all that well.

88 posted on 03/27/2003 6:40:38 PM PST by Grand Old Partisan
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To: MadIvan
Good work! And a salute to the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards.

Scots Taking care of Business!

89 posted on 03/27/2003 6:44:01 PM PST by agincourt1415 (Supreme Tribunal)
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To: agincourt1415

A BIG SALUTE!
TO THE UK Forces!


90 posted on 03/27/2003 6:46:43 PM PST by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: SevenDaysInMay
We must remember that Iran's mafia mullahs are watching us with at least one corps of new '90's vintage Russian armour, including hundreds of all but state-of-the-art T-90s. Only our nukes could stop a full Iranian flanking charge.

Which is why we have developed things like LOSAT which we will be deploying shortly. Modify a Hummer chassis, put a cannister of rapid-fire hyper-kinetic fire-and-forget missiles on it. More range than any tank gun, lethal against all existing and projected future armor systems, a state-of-the-art fire control system, and a rate of fire that a tank can't touch. In theory a small group of these light and highly mobile platforms could make mince meat of any existing modern armor columns. Tax dollars at work.

91 posted on 03/27/2003 6:49:54 PM PST by tortoise
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To: johnb838
That is a catchy tune.

What is the name of it?

92 posted on 03/27/2003 6:53:54 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Slainte
Even the bagpipe is in desert cammo, talk about attention to detail.
93 posted on 03/27/2003 7:01:35 PM PST by X-FID
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To: MadIvan
Ivan,

Thought you'd like to know, I couldn't stand it anymore! I have ordered a Union Jack to fly next to Old Glory on the front of my house. Now, let's get on with this little party.

94 posted on 03/27/2003 7:13:30 PM PST by mumbo
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To: ffusco
Hit in the radiator??

Ghastly! Just ghastly! Imagine the pollution from all that anti-freeze.

The hyper-environmentalists are hyper-ventilating in unison.

Send Ralph Nadar. Please!
95 posted on 03/27/2003 7:29:22 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles - -)
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To: MadIvan
Instead of fighting stupid tank battles with them, and risk losing our guys, why wouldn't we just destroy their tanks, efficiently from the air?

Is it that hard to locate a couple of platoons of 50 ton tanks?

96 posted on 03/27/2003 7:32:53 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: MadIvan
Inside the 61-ton Challengers, the gunners were using the world’s most sophisticated tank targeting system, using a console similar to that on a PlayStation computer game to pick out targets at will. Commanders say this system is loved by young crews used to the non-stop action of computer battle games.
97 posted on 03/27/2003 7:47:53 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Time to bomb Saddam!)
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To: sonofatpatcher2
Let's see-- 14 tanks with four fried towelheads in each makes 56 time 72 virgins = 4,032
98 posted on 03/27/2003 8:11:58 PM PST by Vigilanteman
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To: GladesGuru
"Ghastly! Just ghastly! Imagine the pollution from all that anti-freeze."

I worry about any collateral canine damage.

Correction: the Kornet is a Russian Missile.

99 posted on 03/27/2003 8:15:01 PM PST by ffusco ("Essiri sempri la santu fora la chiesa.")
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To: MadIvan
Challengers moved in from the flank and began picking them off one by one at a range of about 1,500 metres.

Crap .... that's practically point blank range for modern tanks.

100 posted on 03/27/2003 8:15:46 PM PST by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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