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(Canadian)Liberal senator: 'Screw the Americans'
National Post(Ottawa Citizen) ^ | March 27, 2003 | Jack Aubry and Robert Benzie

Posted on 03/27/2003 4:05:25 AM PST by saluki_in_ohio

Liberal senator: 'Screw the Americans' Laurier LaPierre ready to quit over disputed quotation in Senate transcript

By Jack Aubry and Robert Benzie The Ottawa Citizen

Thursday, March 27, 2003

A Liberal senator has been thrown into the firestorm of shaky U.S.-Canada relations after the Senate's Debates quoted him shouting "Screw the Americans" during a Senate sitting this week.

The quote was attributed to outspoken Senator Laurier LaPierre, who has expressed anti-American sentiments in the past, in the official transcript of Tuesday's Senate sitting. Opposition MPs and senators were quick to jump on the quote as another example of the Liberal government's strong anti-Americanism.

Mr. LaPierre told the Senate yesterday that he had been misquoted in the transcript and that he had in fact shouted: "So did the Americans." But his attempt to correct the Debates, which requires unanimous consent, was blocked by opposition members who said they wanted to listen to a tape of the sitting first.

A shaken Mr. LaPierre said he would offer his resignation to Prime Minister Jean Chretien since "his honour" was being challenged by the opposition members.

This latest Liberal caucus controversy came a day after U.S. Ambassador Paul Cellucci delivered a stern rebuke to the Canadian government, saying his country was disappointed that Canada had not joined the "coalition of the willing" to fight the war in Iraq.

The Bush administration has been irked by remarks by Carolyn Parrish, a Toronto-area Liberal MP, who said she hated American "bastards," and Natural Resources Minister Herb Dhaliwal, who said President George W. Bush's decision to go to war shows he is "not a statesman."

Mr. Cellucci said there is a "growing perception" among Americans that Canada, like France, is a source of knee-jerk objections to U.S. foreign policy.

Answering questions about Mr. LaPierre's apparent quote, Mr. Chretien said if the senator actually said it, "it is completely reprehensible."

"I was not aware of it and if it was said, I reprimand that. I do not think that is acceptable to use language like that," said Mr. Chretien.

Mr. LaPierre, a former broadcaster, acknowledged he has used excessive language in the past, but he has always apologized when he has gone too far.

His voice cracking with emotion, he told the Senate that he has a son, daughter-in-law and granddaughter living in the United States and he would not have used the expression "screw," since it is not part of his vocabulary.

"I do not use that kind of language that way. I use other kinds of language, but not this one," said the senator tearfully.

When he was interrupted by some opposition senators across the floor, Mr. LaPierre became indignant and said: "I don't have anything more to say, since obviously I have no honour and I will have to speak to the prime minister to determine whether I should resign or not."

In Toronto, Ontario Premier Ernie Eves inserted himself yesterday into the diplomatic crisis surrounding Mr. Cellucci's remarks by writing a letter to the U.S. ambassador condemning the federal government and supporting Washington on Iraq.

Taking his lead from Alberta Premier Ralph Klein, Mr. Eves wrote Mr. Cellucci to say he agrees with the criticism of Canadian neutrality.

"This morning at our cabinet meeting, members of our executive council were unanimous in our support for you and your fellow Americans," Mr. Eves wrote.

"We believe it is important to support our good American neighbours to the South as you have been our allies and our friends for many decades now," he continued.

Speaking to reporters in Brampton, Mr. Eves denied he was intervening to deflect attention from his administration's many domestic problems.

"It is how I happen to feel. I phoned Ambassador Cellucci (Tuesday) afternoon after his remarks to make sure that he understood ... exactly how I felt," said the premier, who has advocated Canada's participation in the Iraq invasion for a week.

In Ottawa, Senate Speaker Dan Hays said he would rule later on Mr. LaPierre's point of order to change the Debates, the Senate's Hansard.

-With files from Rick Mofina and Mark Kennedy


TOPICS: Canada; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; cellucci; chretien; lapierre
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To: saluki_in_ohio
I think the vast majority of the Canadien population is supportive of us but now those folks in Quebec ? That's an entirely different matter . I love the fall back position this guy takes claiming to have his honour in question and having family in the States .

I like the world being polarized like it is .

61 posted on 03/27/2003 7:46:15 PM PST by Ben Bolt
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To: Grig
"Mr. LaPierre told the Senate yesterday that he had been misquoted in the transcript and that he had in fact shouted: "So did the Americans." But his attempt to correct the Debates, which requires unanimous consent, was blocked by opposition members who said they wanted to listen to a tape of the sitting first.

A shaken Mr. LaPierre said he would offer his resignation to Prime Minister Jean Chretien since "his honour" was being challenged by the opposition members

1. Why would listening to the tapes, to make the desired corrrection --- push Mr. LaPierre to offer his resignation.

2. To claim that playing the tape --- "challenged his honor", is a specious argument.. We have all learned that the French and French Canadians have no honor..

They have shown themselves to be whores to the terrorists, and their word is worth less than their feces smeared on toilet paper...

Yes, I meant to insult the French and French Canadians..
There appears to be a genetic tendency to be lying, lazy, untrustworthy, back stabbing bastards...
I shall continue to insult them, and to think of them as enemies in all future interaction.....
I can think of NOTHING that will change my mind in my lifetime --- NOTHING!

Semper Fi

62 posted on 03/27/2003 8:48:51 PM PST by river rat (War works......It brings Peace... Give war a chance to destroy Jihadists...)
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To: Beck_isright
Have no fear, we're already ready to screw your nation back economically until you get rid of those Castro wannabees running your nation.

Beck_isright,

I'm not Canadian, I am a red-blooded American who just wants a secure northern border, and the way I would like to see it done is to see a regime change in Canada, ie, the Canadian conservatives replacing the Chretien socialist/leftist intellectuals. I intend to do what I can for them.

Canada needs rescued from socialism. Might as well be us to do the job.
63 posted on 03/28/2003 3:15:51 AM PST by saluki_in_ohio (Gun control is the ability to hit your target!)
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To: saluki_in_ohio
"I was not aware of it and if it was said, I reprimand that. I do not think that is acceptable to use language like that," said Mr. Chretien.

Reprimanding the language, not the content. Screw Canada! Like the French, they survive at the expense of a host. A parasite... a leech...

I live 30 minutes from Canada here in the Detroit area. I have had no desire to go there for any reason in at least 15 years.

64 posted on 03/28/2003 3:23:17 AM PST by sit-rep
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To: river rat
Listen up.

I'm as conservative as they come, I've been a freeper since '98, I live in Ottawa and there is almost NOTHING I would love to see more than the Liberal Party kicked out of power.

I myself heard the tape and from the tape it is VERY CLEAR that he did NOT say 'Screw the Americans' but 'So did the Americans'. 'So did the Americans' also fits well with the context of the discussion.

What you are doing is playing into the hands of political trick by a person who is trying to become the leader of the conservative-in-name-only party. If you want to after LaPierre for his saying the USA is quilty of providing arms to Saddam (what he really said) then have at it, but don't cling to misquote just because it feeds your prejudices and anger.
65 posted on 03/28/2003 6:27:46 AM PST by Grig
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To: Grig
I myself heard the tape and from the tape it is VERY CLEAR that he did NOT say 'Screw the Americans' but 'So did the Americans'. 'So did the Americans' also fits well with the context of the discussion.

If that is the case...
There should be no objection by a "man of honor" to have the tape replayed for EVERYONE to hear....

Many Americans, myself included --- have heard and seen MORE THAT ENOUGH to have formed an opinion on the current Canadian government and the majority of Canadians that elected them....

That is NOT our problem....That is your and their problem...

Point is, we have been "listening up" and observing.....

My position remains the same, and my deep anger will be long lived......

Semper Fi

66 posted on 03/28/2003 10:46:12 AM PST by river rat (War works......It brings Peace... Give war a chance to destroy Jihadists...)
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To: Grig
I haven't heard the tape. I HAVE read the transcript though, and I agree with you completely that 'So did the Americans' fits with the context. 'Screw the Americans' would not fit the context at that point in the debate.
67 posted on 03/28/2003 4:14:09 PM PST by Wissa
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To: river rat
current Canadian government and the majority of Canadians that elected them....

That's part of the problem. A majority did not elect them.

68 posted on 03/28/2003 4:19:51 PM PST by Snowyman
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To: mhking
LOL, I find myself (almost) looking forward to another rant from the French, Canadians, Peace-niks, democRATs, and the liberal media, just to see your very amusing graphic posted. It is so appropos.
69 posted on 03/28/2003 4:34:07 PM PST by baseballmom
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To: Grig
I absolutely agree with your comments. If this man was misquoted, and is being harangued because of that, than the conservatives will look very foolish indeed.

The liberals (from Canada and the USA) give us more than enough of their diatribes to debate. We don't need to make them up in order to prove our points.
70 posted on 03/28/2003 4:46:30 PM PST by baseballmom
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