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Iraqi Soldiers Say It Was Fight or Die
New York Times ^ | March 27, 2007 | DEXTER FILKINS

Posted on 03/27/2003 2:32:05 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

DIWANIYA, Iraq, March 26 - The aftermath of the firefight was a tableau of twisted Iraqi bodies, tins of unopened food and the dirty mattresses where they had spent their final hours.

But the Iraqi private with a bullet wound in the back of his head suggested something unusually grim. Up and down the 200-mile stretch of desert where the American and British forces have advanced, one Iraqi prisoner after another has told captors a similar tale: that many Iraqi soldiers were fighting at gunpoint, threatened with death by tough loyalists of President Saddam Hussein.

Here, according to American doctors and Iraqi prisoners, appeared to be one confirmation. The wounded Iraqi, whose life was ebbing away outside an American field hospital, had been shot during the firefight Tuesday night with American troops. It was a small-caliber bullet, most likely from a pistol, fired at close range. Iraqi prisoners taken after the battle said their officers had been firing at them, pushing them into battle.

"The officers threatened to shoot us unless we fought," said a wounded Iraqi from his bed in the American field hospital here. "They took out their guns and pointed them and told us to fight."

As the American medics patched up the wounds of three other Iraqi soldiers, they said there was little they could do for the one who had been shot in the head. Much of his skull had come apart, and the medics labeled him "expectant," which meant he was expected to die. They gave him morphine, wrapped him in a green blanket and put him on a stretcher outside their tent.

"We think he was shot by his own," Dr. Wade Wilde, a Marine surgeon, said. "If he had been hit by an M-16, it would have taken his whole head off. It seems like it was an Iraqi gun." As Dr. Wilde spoke, his eyes drifted to the Iraqi soldier, still clinging to life, on the stretcher. "We've tried to make him as comfortable as possible," he said, "and let the wound run its course."

It is wild here near the front of the American advance, 110 miles south of Baghdad. The ambushes are more frequent, the Iraqi soldiers more desperate, the Americans more jumpy. At night, the perimeter of the American camp echoes with the sound of mortar fire and the yips of wild dogs. "The closer we get to Baghdad, the crazier it gets," Sgt. Robert Gardner, a marine at a base here, said.

The American marines making their way up the Baghdad Highway through central Iraq came under attack at least three times in the past 24 hours. Two of the attacks, including those in which the Iraqi soldiers said they were shot by their own officers, followed a similar pattern.

The Iraqis waited for the tanks and other armored vehicles to pass, then opened fire, as if hoping to hurt the American force but unable to match its heavier weapons. Twice on Tuesday, the Americans came under fire that way.

The first attack came before dawn, when a convoy of marines came under fire from Iraqi irregulars. The details were sketchy, but American officers said they had taken several Iraqi militiamen prisoner, killed several of the Iraqis and lost none of their own. On the road north, the only sign of the encounter was a pool of blood on the side of the road.

Hours later, during a swirling sandstorm, the American convoy again came under attack. A force thought to number about 150 Iraqis was waiting in trenches about 100 yards off the highway. That fight proved more deadly: an American marine was killed and another was wounded, along with at least a dozen Iraqis killed.

Cpl. Chad Stroup was riding with a group of his comrades in a personnel carrier when he heard the banging of bullets on the vehicle's armored shell. His driver, seeking to avoid the fire, swerved and flipped the carrier into an Iraqi trench. Corporal Stroup and the others piled out the vehicle and ran for cover, somehow avoiding the Iraqi soldiers thought to be in the trench. The fight, he said, ended abruptly with American artillery fire. "There were two loud explosions, then it went quiet," he said.

The scene after Tuesday night's battle suggested an Iraqi force that was not as spirited as some of those that American troops have encountered recently in Nasiriya and Najaf.

Scattered through the Iraqi trenches was an arsenal hardly up to the task of slowing the American advance: a few hand grenades, some rocket launchers, three dozen magazines for Kalashnikov rifles. A pair of filthy mattresses and moldy blankets were thrown together in a pile. A dozen corpses lay splayed about in the ditch. Perhaps the only ominous articles were Iraqi gas masks strewn about the trench line.

On the roadside, the Iraqi prisoners huddled together. Only a few had uniforms; most wore tattered clothing and battered shoes. They did not seem like men who lusted for battle. American marines guarding the prisoners said they had complained that their own officers had shot at them during the battle. "I have four children at home, and they threatened to hurt them if I did not fight," another one of the wounded Iraqis said. "I had no choice."

Perhaps because of those accusations, the Americans had taken the group's leader, an Iraqi brigadier general, and sat him on the ground away from the others.

By midafternoon, the marines were embroiled in yet another fight. This one was just three miles away, close enough for Iraqi mortar shells to fall near the American camp. A Marine battalion of about 600 men was dispatched to confront the Iraqis, and by nightfall the sound of artillery rumbled through the area.

By nightfall, the marines, so often a picture of tireless and cocksure youth, were on edge. Around 8 p.m., a sentry guarding the base opened fire, and soon he was joined by a volley of rockets and machine-gun fire from a number of his comrades. Afterward, the area went still. Yet with so little light and so little certain, no one seemed to know whether the young soldiers had been firing at Iraqi intruders or the wild dogs yipping outside the camp.


James Hill for The New York Times - A group of American marines assembled yesterday in central Iraq for a briefing by
one of their officers before heading north toward Baghdad.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: embeddedreport; hospital; iraqideadsoldiers; iraqifreedom; kalashnikovrifles; kia; medic
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God bless our troops.
1 posted on 03/27/2003 2:32:05 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"The officers threatened to shoot us unless we fought," said a wounded Iraqi from his bed in the American field hospital here. "They took out their guns and pointed them and told us to fight."

Very similar to the opening of the film Enemy at the Gates, in which Red Army troops in Stalingrad found themselves caught between German and Russian machine-gun fire.

2 posted on 03/27/2003 2:40:33 AM PST by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Republicam)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Will this kind of report convince the New York Times editorial board that President George W. Bush was right about taking out Saddam?
3 posted on 03/27/2003 2:41:15 AM PST by SubMareener
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To: SubMareener
I'm surprised the New York Times even printed this.

Terp

4 posted on 03/27/2003 2:44:30 AM PST by Terp
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To: SubMareener
"Will this kind of report convince the New York Times editorial board that President George W. Bush was right about taking out Saddam?"

Convince a Liberal that he is wrong? You got to be kidding! LOL!

5 posted on 03/27/2003 2:45:24 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"The officers threatened to shoot us unless we fought," said a wounded Iraqi from his bed in the American field hospital here. "They took out their guns and pointed them and told us to fight."

Not to mention kill, rape and imprison wives, children, family members.

6 posted on 03/27/2003 2:49:14 AM PST by dennisw
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Prayers for our troops and their families.
7 posted on 03/27/2003 2:51:48 AM PST by fightinJAG ("Do not play poker with George W. Bush.")
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To: SubMareener
No. It is ALWAYS our responsibility. None of this would have happened had we just let inspections work.
8 posted on 03/27/2003 2:51:59 AM PST by Illbay (Don't believe every tagline you read - including this one)
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To: photogirl
ping

They fight with honor and never lost their nerve.
Keep your honor clean brothers
Semper Fi
9 posted on 03/27/2003 2:53:56 AM PST by Mystix (Ding dong saddam is gone, which saddam, the evil saddam. Ding dong.....)
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To: SubMareener
Will this kind of report convince the New York Times editorial board that President George W. Bush was right about taking out Saddam?

Hope springs eternal.

Thankfully, so does Spring itself. Here in central VA, it is currently expoding.

10 posted on 03/27/2003 2:54:31 AM PST by The Other Harry
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To: Cincinatus
Also similar to D-Day on the German side. Most of the troops facing the Allies were Ost troops or eastern Europeans captured and forced to fight.

There was even an account in Stephen Ambrose's book "D-Day" about Korean troops who had apparently been captured by Russians in an earlier border war and were forced to fight by the Russian against the Germans. They were subsequently captured by the Germans and forced to fight the Americans. The Americans captured them on D-Day and they were eventually repatriated.

11 posted on 03/27/2003 2:56:50 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (http://www.angelfire.com/ultra/terroristcorecard/index.html)
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Why didn't they just shoot their officers?
12 posted on 03/27/2003 3:06:19 AM PST by KneelBeforeZod (Deus Lo Volt!)
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To: Straight Vermonter
A couple of soldiers that were killed in Saving Private Ryan were speaking czech. an odd little bit of realism in the movie (odd that they went that far to be real)
13 posted on 03/27/2003 3:08:30 AM PST by KneelBeforeZod (Deus Lo Volt!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Interesting that a Brigadier General is leading a road side ambush.
14 posted on 03/27/2003 3:12:04 AM PST by tet68 (Jeremiah 51:24 ..."..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Why don't they wise up and just put bullets in the heads of these enforcer goons? There's many, many more of them.
15 posted on 03/27/2003 3:34:38 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited
Maybe they will when they believe we're in this for the duration.
16 posted on 03/27/2003 4:02:26 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
These stories from embedded reporters must really irritate the editiors of the New York Times back in the states.
17 posted on 03/27/2003 4:02:58 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (Let's Roll)
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To: AmericaUnited
Why don't they wise up and just put bullets in the heads of these enforcer goons? There's many, many more of them.

We are seeing the results of 30 years of fear and terror.

When the oppressed Iraqis realize that they have been liberated, their exhaltation will make the Afghani's look sad.

18 posted on 03/27/2003 4:03:28 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Bump
19 posted on 03/27/2003 4:10:02 AM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
BUMP

In God We Trust…..Semper Fi


20 posted on 03/27/2003 4:20:26 AM PST by North Coast Conservative (just a patriot, seeking to keep America free)
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