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Blair plays down the UN's role in rebuilding Iraq
The Daily Telegraph ^ | March 27, 2003 | George Jones, Ben Brogan and Toby Harnden

Posted on 03/26/2003 5:13:53 PM PST by MadIvan

Tony Blair sought last night to avert a rift with President George W Bush by agreeing that the United Nations' role in post-war Iraq should be limited to humanitarian aid until America and Britain had made the country safe.

As he flew to Washington for a war summit with President Bush, the Prime Minister described as "premature" talk of the UN's role in running the country immediately after the conflict.

"We don't know what the situation is going to be when you get to the post-conflict situation," he said.

In an attempt to maintain the allies' unity after a series of setbacks during the first week of the conflict, Mr Blair played down differences between Britain and the US over the future of post-Saddam Iraq.

There is intense scepticism within the Bush administration about allowing the UN anything more than an involvement in humanitarian relief in Iraq. Mr Blair faced some private criticism for pressing the case for a further UN resolution before the conflict.

Officials have said that seeking a UN Security Council resolution to give the world body an executive role is a non-starter and Mr Blair's comments were a recognition of that sentiment.

Nile Gardiner, a fellow at the Heritage Foundation think tank, which is close to the White House, said: "The Bush administration really has no stomach for going back to the UN. Mr Blair is going a bridge too far by pressing the UN issue in post-war Iraq."

Earlier, Mr Blair faced questioning from MPs who feared Mr Bush would be unwilling to allow the UN to play a central part in rebuilding Iraq.

Iain Duncan Smith, the Conservative leader, said it was clear that Mr Bush was "deeply sceptical" about any role for the UN.

Mr Blair assured MPs of his personal commitment to ensuring that the post-war administration in Iraq had the backing of the UN.

He said both he and Mr Bush had made clear "that any post-conflict Iraq administration has to be specifically accepted and endorsed by the United Nations".

But he acknowledged that the timing and details of any handover to a civilian administration had yet to be agreed.

Mr Blair stressed the importance of ensuring the safety of American and British soldiers before handing over to the UN.

"We will obviously have to discuss the details of how we make the handover to civil administration in Iraq because it is important both to protect our own troops and make sure, frankly, that they did not give their lives in vain," Mr Blair said.

It was important that a post-conflict Iraqi administration had the full endorsement of the UN because it would release funds and allow the international financial institutions to operate in a more effective way.

But a more immediate priority was to secure UN agreement to get Iraq's food for oil programme up and running again. He would have discussions with Kofi Annan, the UN secretary general, in New York today on how money in the programme could be used for humanitarian relief.

On the flight to Washington yesterday, Mr Blair emphasised the importance of stabilising Iraq.

He said it could take some time to ensure that Iraq had the proper security and a government that was representative and cared about human rights: "The idea that you suddenly rush into the UN, that's what's causing the difficulty."

Mr Blair said the next couple of days would not determine what the post-conflict situation would be like. The immediate priority was to get the oil-for-food aid programme sorted out.

He said of his two-day talks with Mr Bush: "We will discuss the military situation but that's not the only purpose of the visit either. It's to go through in a reflective way all the various issues."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: blair; bush; iraq; irrelevant; saddam; uk; us; war
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To: TLBSHOW
Let's wait a bit and see what happens. I just cannot see George Bush and Tony Blair, after sending our boys into Iraq to bleed and die in an attempt to free the world of a bloodthirsty regime and major sponsor of world wide terrorism, after having expended every last bit of political capital they had and then some (not to mention billions of dollars), I just can't see these two blithely handing the country back to the same enablers and vermin at the UN that allowed and even encouraged the regime of Saddam Hussein to become such a cancer on the civilized world. Not without a fight, anyway.
41 posted on 03/26/2003 7:09:17 PM PST by CFC__VRWC (Note to Tom Dashcle: If I want your opinion, I'll ask Chirac for it.)
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To: TLBSHOW
Here is the Prime Minister's own words from the post you put up:

We are quite clear that any such administration has to be endorsed by the United Nations, it is important, and that is exactly what we said at the summit in the Azores. Now the details of that we will discuss with allies within the UN and with others.

Your disconnect is coming here - endorsed does NOT equal that the adminstration is UN run. In an ideal world we would not even be talking to the UN at all. But you know what, tough, this is the real world, and Blair has to be able to say he made the attempt to talk to the UN. He is also saying this in a context in which he knows that the French will shoot down anything that is proposed.

Your fears are misplaced and far too literal. Again, you are simply not subtle enough to grasp what is going on.

Ivan

42 posted on 03/26/2003 7:09:34 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
Have Australian, British, American, Spanish, Polish and Danish administrators in the lead.

This sounds great. I think Mr. Blair has made his choice about the future of the UK, the English channel may become wider than the Atlantic. I think Japan is ready to jump in to help also.

43 posted on 03/26/2003 7:11:16 PM PST by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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To: MadIvan
And when is the Press conference going to be?
44 posted on 03/26/2003 7:12:30 PM PST by TLBSHOW (The gift is to see the truth......)
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To: MadIvan
You try and put things in the most negative way possible - I respect your honesty, but you're not subtle and that deficiency means you're missing the real story.

You're being too kind, Ivan. I believe that he's intentionally cutting and pasting to show things in the most negative way possible, just to stir up arguments.

45 posted on 03/26/2003 7:14:04 PM PST by Amelia (God bless our troops!)
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To: TLBSHOW
I'm sure Blair and Bush will appear tomorrow. This is what I suspect will happen - they will go to the UN to cough up some money for humantarian aid, and the administration will be Anglo-American led. If Blair and Bush are as intelligent as I think they are, they will put it under "Coalition" administration.

Regards, Ivan

46 posted on 03/26/2003 7:14:09 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
Here is what they must say, the un will have no part in the Iraq solution including oil for food or the rebuilding of it or the handing over of it to the UN forces.
47 posted on 03/26/2003 7:14:34 PM PST by TLBSHOW (The gift is to see the truth......)
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To: TLBSHOW
Here is what they must say, the un will have no part in the Iraq solution including oil for food or the rebuilding of it or the handing over of it to the UN forces.

There is no "must" about it. Sorry, President Bush and the Prime Minister are not there to serve your whims; they are there to make measured, considered decisions based on the national interest.

Ivan

48 posted on 03/26/2003 7:16:41 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: dogbyte12
so glad to see you jump in but you are a little late for this party unless you would like to debate the role of the UN in the Iraq solution.

I will be glad to ping you over here. As the title is much more real than the title of this thread.

Blair to press Bush over UN role (to shift power to a UN civil administration not US military )
FT ^ | 3/25/2003 | FT


Posted on 03/25/2003

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/875534/posts?page=

49 posted on 03/26/2003 7:19:22 PM PST by TLBSHOW (The gift is to see the truth......)
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To: TLBSHOW
Thanks for posting that -- I thought I had heard him publicly call for the UN to be totally involved!
50 posted on 03/26/2003 7:21:06 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US)
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To: TLBSHOW; dogbyte12
FT is behind the Telegraph in reporting events. Sorry, you're attempting to stir up problems for no good purpose.

Ivan

51 posted on 03/26/2003 7:21:30 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
"...simply not subtle enough..."

England must have a MUCH different definition of 'subtle' than we do. His codswallop is legendary!
52 posted on 03/26/2003 7:22:04 PM PST by justshe (FREE MIGUEL !)
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To: PhiKapMom
You're welcome and it is good to see others are not blind to the truth here.
53 posted on 03/26/2003 7:24:55 PM PST by TLBSHOW (The gift is to see the truth......)
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To: TLBSHOW
There are people who are going to go mad every time the UN is mentioned. I'm sorry to see you've abandoned reason to that extent.

Blair has little choice but to mention the UN thanks to the tensions in his own party - this is something you simply cannot deny, because it's true. The reality of the situation is that the UN is not going to be involved, at the very least due to the French veto. That you cannot deny because it is true. That still does not mean that the UN shouldn't cough up the food aid they have, which we have already paid for. This you cannot deny either, because it is true. Instead you would rather throw a tantrum about the rhetoric surrounding what will occur not meeting your expectations. Well, you must be sorely disappointed a lot of the time - we live in a real world where sometimes we have to acknowledge the whims of groups we'd rather ignore. Blair has to deal with the Left of his party, Bush has to deal with RINOs. You do what you can to pacify them and carry on.

Basic politics. For adults.

Ivan

54 posted on 03/26/2003 7:28:57 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
You never answered my qustion about the Scottland paper I have asked you at least twice about, is it a good source or not. You know what I mean is left like Blair or to the right? Because last Sunday in that paper was the first time I even saw that there was a problem over the role of the UN.

And since now we know its true was that paper right on or not?
55 posted on 03/26/2003 7:30:24 PM PST by TLBSHOW (The gift is to see the truth......)
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To: MadIvan
Ivan, a wise person said, "Don't get in an argument with an idiot, because bystanders may not know the difference".

Regards... Go UK!

56 posted on 03/26/2003 7:31:37 PM PST by dogbyte12
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To: TLBSHOW
The Scotland paper is generally a good source; however as this article shows, it's not 100%. The only source that gets anywhere close to 100% is the Telegraph. Which is where this comes from.

Are you done now? I've indulged your tantrum for quite some time and patiently explained the situation; you may not like the truth, but it remains the truth nonetheless.

Ivan

57 posted on 03/26/2003 7:32:40 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
Again, you are simply not subtle enough to grasp what is going on.

Could be taken as an insult, don't you think.

I had the misfortune of listening to some of the PM questioning today, a lot of "tell the Israelis to get rid of those settlements and everything will be fine" nonsense.

The ragheads will not rest until their ability to fight has been neutralized, or there is no more Israel, and then after that, no more West.

58 posted on 03/26/2003 7:33:38 PM PST by Rome2000
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To: Rome2000
Could be taken as an insult, don't you think.

A mild rebuke.

I had the misfortune of listening to some of the PM questioning today, a lot of "tell the Israelis to get rid of those settlements and everything will be fine" nonsense.

Sadly the Labour Party is not a home for those who support Israel. That's a perogative of the Conservative and Ulster Unionist parties.

Regards, Ivan

59 posted on 03/26/2003 7:36:30 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
Good then I will post it as a seperate thread like I should of done last Sunday to alert freepers of the UN problem we have with Blair.
60 posted on 03/26/2003 7:36:50 PM PST by TLBSHOW (The gift is to see the truth......)
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