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British bodies lie in dust as mob exults
The Times ^ | March 27, 2003 | David Charter and Alan Hamilton

Posted on 03/26/2003 3:32:49 PM PST by MadIvan

THE images are gruesome, and calculated to cause the utmost distress. Two dead and bloodstained soldiers in unmarked desert fatigues lie side by side on a dusty road. For a while yesterday there was doubt about their identity or even whether they were genuine coalition casualties. Now we know; they are British.

Al-Jazeera, the Qatar-based television station, repeatedly showed yesterday afternoon a 30-second sequence which no one here will wish to see. The station said the pictures were recorded on Tuesday in al-Zubayr, near Basra.

British sources in Qatar said last night that the footage showed the bodies of two soldiers attached to the Desert Rats missing in action since their Land Rover was ambushed by Iraqi forces on Sunday. The footage brought immediate condemnation from British commanders and politicians, and tears to the eyes of the dead men’s comrades in the Gulf who saw it.

Relatives of the two men were being informed that their status was being changed to “missing believed killed” pending formal identification.

In the same brief sequence the Arab-language satellite channel showed images of two hostages looking sombre and uncomfortable. Both men were black, one in his 40s and the other much younger and wearing dreadlocks. Behind them a group of animated Iraqis held up fingers in V-for-victory signs.

Unlike Sunday’s al-Jazeera footage taken from Iraqi state television which claimed to show a group of American prisoners-of-war, there was this time no audio, no attempt to push a microphone in the men’s faces and question them.

Their voices were not heard, and their clothes betrayed no identity. UK National Contingent HQ do not believe the two hostages are British.

Al-Jazeera also showed shots of a crowd surrounding and dancing on an overturned Land Rover and its trailer with a British military numberplate. The station also showed pictures of what appeared to be a broken Phoenix spotter drone with RAF insignia, of the type used by the Royal Artillery to spot targets.

Senior British figures are furious at al-Jazeera’s decision to screen the pictures, particularly those of the dead men, which will be widely seen throughout the Arab world. A Ministry of Defence spokesman, describing it as a flagrant and disgraceful breach of the Geneva Convention, said: “We deplore the decision by al-Jazeera to broadcast such material and call upon them to desist immediately. We request all other media outlets not to become tools for Iraqi propaganda by rebroadcasting such material.”

Commanders are only too well aware of the damaging psychological effect such images can have if seen back home. They well remember, during the last Gulf War, the parading of the British pilots John Peters and John Nichol, looking extremely battered and bruised, on Iraqi television.

Other coalition pilots from Italy and the US were also seen during that conflict, forced to read out pro-Iraqi propaganda on Iraqi television.

But all will remember even more keenly the images from Somalia in 1993, when the corpses of US soldiers were dragged triumphantly through the streets of Mogadishu. It was not long after those deeply disturbing images had been seen in America that the troops were brought home.

Group Captain Al Lockwood, the British spokesman in Qatar, said: “Showing pictures of dead soldiers and prisoners of war on television contravenes the Geneva Convention and we believe (al-Jazeera)are being irresponsible by showing them.”

He admitted that the coalition had mistakenly allowed images of POWs to be filmed. “We had one or two mistakes early on in the campaign when enemy POWs were shown on UK networks. There has been a general consensus that it is a violation of the Geneva Convention, and they will no longer do it.”

Politicians also condemned the pictures of the dead men. A spokesman for Iain Duncan Smith, the Tory leader, said: “If it is confirmed that these two soldiers are British Service personnel we find it deeply repellent that any television station has chosen to parade their bodies.” Gerald Howarth, a Tory defence spokesman, said: “Iraq are brilliant at seeking to undermine the spirit of the coalition forces and if al-Jazeera has been aiding and abetting them it would be disgusting.”


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ambush; blair; bush; inmemoriam; iraq; iraqifreedom; saddam; squaddies; troops; uk; us; war
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To: agincourt1415; MadIvan
It would be difficult to kick AJ out of Qatar because Qatar is the HQ of AJ. They should, however, revoke their embed status. They are completely reckless and irresponsible.

MadIvan: Deepest sympathies to the people of the UK. Their steadfast support of the USA and the cause of freedom will never be forgotten. May Almighty God grant comfort to the grieving. May He also strengthen the hands of our valiant for WAR.
21 posted on 03/26/2003 3:49:23 PM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: MadIvan
Ivan,

Your strength and devotion are apparent. Godspeed to the brave British troops - and may He bless the souls of those lost.

Lando

22 posted on 03/26/2003 3:49:28 PM PST by Lando Lincoln (God Bless the arsenal of liberty.)
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To: MadIvan
Ivan, I appreciate all the posts you make. I read them all.

One question: Is the Union Jack indeed at half mast there?

23 posted on 03/26/2003 3:49:43 PM PST by don-o (And monthly donators are my favorite Freepers. Sign up today. Link is on the home page.)
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To: MadIvan
Deepest regrets. Thank you Brits for all your courage.
24 posted on 03/26/2003 3:49:57 PM PST by OregonRancher
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To: onetimeatbandcamp
They are making propaganda out of the deaths of British soldiers. Propaganda that will backfire.

Ivan

26 posted on 03/26/2003 3:51:16 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: Arpege92
I agree with you Ivan. Images like this only strengthen our resolve and desire to avenge. Where the hell is the rest of the world on this? If the US/UK were engaged in this kind of propaganda we would be crucified for it but any other news source can do it with impunity. Are there really that many people out there that lack the objectivity to see the evil in this?
27 posted on 03/26/2003 3:53:17 PM PST by SouthParkRepublican (God bless our troops)
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To: MadIvan
With the fourth being screwed by our "friends" in Turkey we would be completely unable to do this without the support of the 50,000 British troops doing their nation proud. Thank you for standing with us!!! We shall never forget your bravery, skill and sacrifice.
29 posted on 03/26/2003 3:58:07 PM PST by math=power
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To: MadIvan
There is a sickness of the soul in people who show this and who enjoy watching it. I cannot explain or understand it except to say it is evil--devoid of any goodness or compassion. I began praying for the British soldiers and thier families as soon as I heard they were missing. I will continue praying that God gives these brave soldier's families the peace and measure of grace only He can give.

I really struggle with my feelings right now. It is a good thing God is patient with me while I go from wanting to do vile things to those who have treated British and American soldiers with disdain to asking Him to help me not feel hate. I think He said it is ok to hate evil, just cool it on the torture I pictured doing back at them. :)
30 posted on 03/26/2003 3:59:53 PM PST by Reb Raider
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To: MadIvan
Condolences, Ivan, for our fallen comrades.
31 posted on 03/26/2003 3:59:54 PM PST by annyokie (provacative yet educational reading alert)
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To: MadIvan
Victory ~ Vengeance
33 posted on 03/26/2003 4:00:13 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: MadIvan
Now we have some Royal Marines who are just as pissed as U.S. Leathernecks.


34 posted on 03/26/2003 4:00:18 PM PST by Alouette
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To: ml/nj
When will people understand that we are engaged in a clash of civilizations, and that only one side is civilized.
35 posted on 03/26/2003 4:05:16 PM PST by Wormwood
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To: onetimeatbandcamp
so its not bad that they are doing this. its actually good for us.

No it's not bloody good for us! It's evil! How can you possibly say such a thing?

Ivan

36 posted on 03/26/2003 4:05:26 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
Are there any forums (besides here, of course!) where we can post words of thanks to your brave countryfolk, specific to the military and/or to the supporters at home, MadIvan?
37 posted on 03/26/2003 4:09:29 PM PST by SeattleTiger
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To: MadIvan
This is very sad news. Methinks the gloves are coming off in the next couple of days. I hope the families of these brave men do not see the photos of their loved ones deceased.
38 posted on 03/26/2003 4:10:42 PM PST by Cate ((LET FREEDOM RING!!!!))
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To: MadIvan
God bless your honored dead, Ivan. I weep for them and pray for their families. Perhaps the following words spoken by President Bush today when he visited Central Command in Florida may bring some comfort:

Begin quote from President Bush's speech:

All the nations in our coalition are contributing to our steady progress. British ground forces have seized strategic towns and ports. The Royal Air Force is striking targets throughout Iraq. The Royal Navy is taking command of coastal waters. The Australian military is providing naval gunfire support, and Special Forces, and fighter aircraft on missions deep in Iraq. Polish military forces have secured an Iraqi oil platform in the Persian Gulf. A Danish submarine is monitoring Iraqi, intelligence providing early warning. Czech, Slovak, Polish, and Romanian forces, soon to be joined by Ukrainian and Bulgarian forces, are forward deployed in the region, prepared to respond in the event of an attack of weapons of mass destruction anywhere in the region. Spain is providing important logistical and humanitarian support.

Coalition forces are skilled and courageous, and we are honored to have them by our side.
(Thunderous applause from the huge crowd at this. The crowd filled every corner of a huge airplane hangar.)

In the early stages of this war, the world is getting a clearer view of the Iraqi regime and the evil at its heart. In the ranks of that regime are men whose idea of courage is to brutalize unarmed prisoners. They wage attacks while posing as civilians. They use real civilians as human shields. They pretend to surrender, then fire upon those who show them mercy.

This band of war criminals has been put on notice: the day of Iraq's liberation will also be a day of justice.

39 posted on 03/26/2003 4:11:04 PM PST by Wolfstar (Why war in Iraq? Answer: ANTHRAX.)
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To: MadIvan
Arab cultures are savage and Islam is a death cult -- why the surprise at this barbarism? The only message they understand is like treatment.
40 posted on 03/26/2003 4:11:24 PM PST by TexasRepublic
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