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To: Avoiding_Sulla
If you are going to make that charge it's only fair that you layout exactly how his pocket got lined. Who in his family benefitted financially and how much money did they make? How much money went to Moynihan directly?

If you don't have on your fingertips those facts, and yet are willing to condemn the man on the day of his death over what everyone would have to agree is an obscure piece of legislation, you end up looking a lot worse than Moynihan in terms of ethical conduct.

191 posted on 03/26/2003 4:58:27 PM PST by beckett
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To: beckett
My source was from my memory of an American Engineering Association Bulletin from about a dozen years ago. Their website is http://www.aea.org/ . I'm sure they'll gladly substantiate whatever you wish.

I believed their account because AEA is the only independent organization to represent American engineers and not academia and large corporations. Among other things, they've spent years fighting H1B legislation in support of American Engineers rather than -- as it has turned out -- importing and training terrorists.

They also spent considerable time trying to restore the safe harbor and ran headlong into the obstacle that was the lobby that had access to Senator Moynihan.

Look Beckett, I know Moynihan is a favorite of a lot of folks. I'm sure, you being well-read, are certainly among them. I am sorry. This is the best I can do. If that, in your opinion, makes me worse than the denizens who turned the perfectly respectable DC swamp into an open sewer, then I guess I know what you are too. I pray I'm wrong.

In the unlikely event I haven't insulted you, and you care a wit, I'll offer why I chose to pass along of writing my lengthy posting (since my tagline obviously wasn't enough).

The point of my note was two-fold:
1) To warn off all these posters, I among them, who are dying to find any pol with character. It is folly to elevate any contemporary pol to saint-hood, and certainly no Democrat of the last 10 years.
2) To remind most FR conservatives (not all conservatives since some obviously benefit in kind) that allowing DC cloak room shennigans to remain unrevealed and uncriticised (such as this particularly costly instance of hidden-from-light-of-day pork insertion) has certainly not helped our cause in protecting our constitution. (Unless they approve of costly and unlevel legislation which its backers dare not provide an opportunity for public debate.)

-Av
213 posted on 03/26/2003 6:38:32 PM PST by Avoiding_Sulla (You can't see where we're going when you don't look where we've been.)
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