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Shame on You, Mr. Moore! Shame on You! (the original title)
TIME ^ | 3/24/2003 | JAMES PONIEWOZIK

Posted on 03/26/2003 9:56:24 AM PST by francisr

Shame on You, Mr. Moore! Shame on You! The 'Bowling for Columbine' auteur had every qualification to make his antiwar speech at the Oscars. That didn't make it any less stupid By JAMES PONIEWOZIK It may not be the most popular thing to say today, but Michael Moore had not only every right but every legitimate qualification to make an antiwar speech — "Shame on you, Mr. Bush! Shame on you!" — at the 2003 Oscars. The standard reason to discount political speeches from Hollywood celebs, after all, is that we don't give a crap about their political thoughts: their job is to stand up, look pretty, collect their $25 million and give US and People something to write about.

One can hardly say that about Michael Moore. In fact, there is not much reason that anyone cares about Michael Moore except for his political opinions. From "Roger and Me" through his Oscar-winning "Bowling for Columbine", his movie are less documentaries in the usual sense than artfully constructed and often hilariously funny editorials. Agree with him or not, he is, unlike Susan Sarandon, nothing if he is not a professional commentator; and thus it was not inherently stupid for him to make his speech.

No. His speech was stupid for entirely different reasons.

The first is that — and this is a characteristic flaw of Moore's movies — it was a shrill harangue that would make a person ashamed even for agreeing with it. By starting off his screed by attacking the legitimacy of George W. Bush's election, he committed the same mistake as too many leaders of the antiwar movement, such as the leaders of ANSWER: he couldn't resist the temptation to lump his antiwar stance in with the rest of his portfolio of grievances. As a result, he made a speech guaranteed to alienate even many people who are also against the war.

If Moore really wants to end the war — and not just boost the spirits of his Upper West Side neighbors — then mightn't he also want to win over people who oppose the war and yet don't believe that Bush is an illegimate president swept into office by skullduggery? Is he so insulated that he doesn't realize people like that exist? Or are people like that simply not simon-pure enough for him to want them in his antiwar movement?

That's the really annoying thing about Moore's speech. Moore often casts himself as a populist, and sometimes he's even convincing. He often makes a strong case against other progressives who out of touch with the hoi polloi — who can't lower themselves to listen to talk radio, can't identify a NASCAR driver or country singer, can't in any sense understand how the mass of America lives and thinks. This kind of liberal attitude, he has rightly argued, has kept the Left from building broad-based movements. But Moore's own clubby, we-all-know-Bush-is-a-liar attitude suggests that he's not interested in a broad-based antiwar movement.

I'm going to get a lot of e-mail from people who believe Bush stole the election in Florida, but before you press "send," at least consider this. A lot of smart people agree with you. But if someone disagrees with you, are they not worth allying with against the war? Would you rather have a war in Iraq than pass up a chance to bring up Florida again?

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1 posted on 03/26/2003 9:56:24 AM PST by francisr
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To: francisr
I haven't seen Michael Moore so upset since he was charged for 2 seats on Southwest Airlines.
2 posted on 03/26/2003 9:58:02 AM PST by journey7873
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To: francisr
shame
3 posted on 03/26/2003 9:58:32 AM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: francisr
One good thing about this war already painfully obvious is that we are having an easy time distinguishing run of the mill pissant liberals from the truly sh!tty ones. Sort of a crucible.
4 posted on 03/26/2003 10:02:51 AM PST by wardaddy (G-d speed our fighters!)
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To: francisr
Michael Moore is a liar who got his initial claim to fame representing himself as as a native of Flint, Michigan. He was not born in Flint and never attended a Flint school. Yeah, he does have a way with the comical segue, but that's about it.
5 posted on 03/26/2003 10:16:49 AM PST by Slyfox
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To: Slyfox
comical segue

Sorry, I just couldn't resist.

6 posted on 03/26/2003 10:26:02 AM PST by martin_fierro (But it's "Jackson" if you're nasty.)
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To: francisr
"Shame on You, Mr. Moore! Shame on You! "

AND you're ugly!

7 posted on 03/26/2003 10:37:22 AM PST by FryingPan101 (I love Rummy!)
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To: francisr
Anyone who persists in believing that Bush "stole" the election, "smart" is NOT a word I would describe them. Mr. Bush prevented the theft of the election from Al Gore and his selected recounts in heavily-Democratic counties. Every recount thereafter by liberal media outlets have Bush WINNING Florida. So, anyone who continues to say that Bush stole the election is, quite frankly, an ill-informed idiot!

8 posted on 03/26/2003 10:49:09 AM PST by Sister_T
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To: francisr
And his movie is evil because it skirts the Entertainment Industrial complex's responsibilities for the utter decadence it promotes. Joe Liberman and Tipper Gore failed utterly.
9 posted on 03/26/2003 10:56:58 AM PST by Helms (Pacifism in Defence of Freedom is Indeed a Vice)
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To: martin_fierro
LOL
10 posted on 03/26/2003 1:43:12 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: FryingPan101
Yes, Michael moore is indeed ugly. I also discussed his case with a pychiatrist who not only agreed but offered a second opinion that Moore is crazy, too. By the way, the liberal media is already ranting about casualties. If you tally up those killed on Saturday nights in Washington, D.C., Philly, New York, Chicago and L.A. the numbers will far surpass those of our troops during a week of combat. If you don't believe this, get the figures from the cops in our own five hellholes. If it were not for the CENTCOM officials on the site it would be nice to see a MOAB touch down in the briefing center. If that happened Saddam would lose his entire public affairs corps.
11 posted on 03/26/2003 2:11:09 PM PST by daddypatriot
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To: francisr
Send comments to: mike@michaelmoore.com

PLEASE drown this lard-ass with loving remarks!!!!
12 posted on 03/26/2003 3:02:49 PM PST by Extremist
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To: francisr
He often makes a strong case against other progressives who out of touch with the hoi polloi

A couple of months ago, he was performing at a theatre in London when he complained that at $750/night, he wasn't getting paid enough. And to top it off, he flew into a rage at everyone including the bar staff.

13 posted on 03/26/2003 3:49:27 PM PST by Dave Olson
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$750 a night?! What's he complaining about? He can buy a butt-load (a Michael Moore-sized butt-load) of Big Macs and Ding Dongs with $750 a night. He might be able to fill the gas tank of his "working man's" limo with $750 a night. Such greed.
14 posted on 03/26/2003 9:42:53 PM PST by TXBlair
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To: journey7873
I sent him an email with that exact same message. Shame on you Mr.Moore, Shame on you... and it came back. Said his mailbox was full..

I'll bet it was. His website was down too. Never checked to see if it ever came back up.

15 posted on 03/26/2003 9:55:25 PM PST by Texas Mom
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To: Sister_T
Anyone who persists in believing that Bush "stole" the election, "smart" is NOT a word I would describe them. Mr. Bush prevented the theft of the election from Al Gore and his selected recounts in heavily-Democratic counties. Every recount thereafter by liberal media outlets have Bush WINNING Florida. So, anyone who continues to say that Bush stole the election is, quite frankly, an ill-informed idiot!

And don't forget to mention all those absentee ballots he had thrown out from our military..

16 posted on 03/26/2003 9:57:41 PM PST by Texas Mom
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