[kegler4]

"1) A person of concience who always, invariably, opposes violence between people. A good and moral kind of patriotic soul who serves by working in hospitals in wartime. This kind of person is universally respected as having the courage of their conviction. This special sort of concientous objector is also vanishingly rare among the throngs who camoflage their agendas of violence and hate under the raiments of a creature of concience."

I agree with you here but ohioman, who was arguing with droberts earlier, doesn't think that even these people should be allowed to exist. He would kill or imprison all who disagree with him even one little bit. He spends his time on this forum threatening people and calling them names. Real thoughtful.

[ohioman]

What you say is complete bullshyt! I do respect the concientous objector who provides humanitarian needs and "HELPS" during times of war. To me, that subject has yet to be brought up. I never said let's get them damn quakers. You sound like many a liberal, as you put many a word in my mouth.

The people out on the streets are not COs. They hate Capitalism and America. And I will always call those who agree with these people scum. I will never give them the respect they think they deserve. They are the enemy.

[MoscowMike]

Howdy

You make an interesting point.

I have at least one friend who is a magnificent human being, a real excellent dude, admirable, interesting, accomplished, you get my point. He opposes Bush, opposes the war, even today, when that opinion is objectively pro saddam and if followed would bring about a catastrophe whose magnitude would dwarf the millions who were butchered when we left Southeast Asia a generation ago.

Do I want my most excellent friend to cease to exist? No! The world would be diminished without my esteemed friend.

So, let us say, politically wrong minded people should cease to exist in terms of relevance to the reasoned public debate which guides our nation and shapes our destiny.

Let us not condemn the existence of the wrong headed servants of mayhem, but merely their political relevance.

And that we must do. And in large measure, modern history has rendered them irrelevant. It is the knowledge of the death of collectivist ideological relevance which drives the bitterness of many whose socialist dreams have passed into history.

Those who march in our streets and call for soldiers to mutiny and murder their officers, and whose exortations have been answered with the wanton butchery of American military commanders in the theater of war, they should be deprived of their liberty post haste. Those who do violence against our nation in wartime should be deprived of their existence for the same reason that saddam must be deprived of his.

That the innocent may survive.