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Hollywood divided over Moore's anti-war harangue - "patriot-plus" booed
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | March 26 2003

Posted on 03/26/2003 12:58:17 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Los Angeles: In a debate even more intense than the one that raged around Marlon Brando when he refused the Oscar in 1973 to protest Hollywood's treatment of Indians, the film industry is choosing sides in reaction to Michael Moore's anti-war comments at the Academy Awards.

Were his comments appropriate at a time when this country's men and women are in harm's way in Iraq? Or were they the predictable rantings of someone who, in the words of a past Oscar winner, is a well-known egotist into "his own self-aggrandisement"?

Upon receiving the Oscar for his controversial documentary Bowling for Columbine, Moore called President Bush "a fictitious president" waging a war "for fictitious reasons," and then went on to chastise him with, "Shame on you, Mr Bush. Shame on you!"

At an earlier awards show, Moore said that if he won the Oscar, he would either refer to Bush's "fictitious" presidency or would pass his allotted 45 seconds at the mike in silence. His comments, which brought a smattering of boos, catcalls and applause, came in at 55 seconds. Nominees Ed Harris and Martin Scorsese were among those who applauded; Harrison Ford flashed a bemused smile. Cliff Robertson, who won the best-actor Oscar in 1969 for Charly, was offended by the remarks.

"I don't think the Oscars are a forum for political posturing," Robertson said the day after the show. "One should confine one's statements to cinema excellence. Moore crossed the line by bringing in his own political statements, which were more about him, his own self-aggrandisement, than anything else."

San Francisco Bay Area filmmakers Gail Dolgin and Vicente Franco, who were nominated in the documentary feature category for Daughter From Danang, accepted Moore's invitation to "stand in solidarity" with him onstage during the award presentation. They said next day that they applaud Moore as a "patriot-plus" who - while others said nothing or flashed a tentative peace sign - gave the Academy Awards show its most memorable moment.

"Michael seized the moment and used his forum to do what we cherish most in this country - dissent," Dolgin said. "He broke the rules and got our attention. Better that than some guy doing push-ups or riding a horse onstage.

"We knew the scope of what he might say and were honoured to stand with him as he gave voice to all our concern."

Dolgin said she had trouble hearing Moore's comments because of the commotion in the auditorium. "There was an explosion of booing. It sounded like we were at a football game and somebody didn't like the referee call."

Moore's answering machine in New York was not accepting messages. "I'm sorry but there's no room right now to record your message," a voice said. "Please try again later."

KRT


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dumbass; freespeech; hollywoodclowns
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Some push-ups might be in order.

1 posted on 03/26/2003 12:58:17 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Patriot-plus? Is that like super-size?
2 posted on 03/26/2003 1:00:04 AM PST by RichInOC (Being Michael Moore means never being asked if you want fries with that. They already know.)
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To: RichInOC
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3 posted on 03/26/2003 1:07:07 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Michael seized the moment and used his forum to do what we cherish most in this country - dissent," Dolgin said.

Most Americans cherish other things, dissent for the sake of it never built a bridge, or washed a car.

Pretend people, pretending to be intelegent. I suggest some time at a real job might be good for their souls.

4 posted on 03/26/2003 1:09:40 AM PST by American in Israel (Right beats wrong)
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To: RichInOC
Phat Phucks like Michael Whore need to be defunded.

Conservatives need to understand that money given to Hollyweird is used to fund this scumbag and his Marxist propaganda.

STOP BUYING MOVIE TICKETS AND RENTING VIDEOS/DVD's.

STOP WATCHING FAKE FILMS.

START LIVING LIFE.

START MAKING A BETTER WORLD.

5 posted on 03/26/2003 1:09:41 AM PST by Enduring Freedom
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Dolgin said she had trouble hearing Moore's comments because of the commotion in the auditorium. "There was an explosion of booing. It sounded like we were at a football game and somebody didn't like the referee call."

Oh, so sorry you couldn't hear Moore's tirade. It only sounded like a communist political rally and fat lunatic nobody who didn't like the outcome of a presidential election.

6 posted on 03/26/2003 1:14:30 AM PST by beaversmom (After the Axis of Evil on to the Axis of Weasels)
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7 posted on 03/26/2003 1:19:02 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne; All
Moore and Chirac - a perfect fit.
8 posted on 03/26/2003 1:22:00 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
These two give the term "white trash" a new lease on life.
9 posted on 03/26/2003 1:26:11 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Obviously a very unhappy, confused, stupid white guy.
11 posted on 03/26/2003 1:49:18 AM PST by Russell Scott (Iraqi soldier, is it really worth dying for the Butcher of Baghdad?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
They said next day that they applaud Moore as a "patriot-plus" who - while others said nothing or flashed a tentative peace sign - gave the Academy Awards show its most memorable moment.

I agree that he gave Oscar one of it's most memorable moments. He did for the Oscars what Chirac did for the UN by helping to put a dying entity out of it's misery. Next year's show might even have trouble finding sponsers.

12 posted on 03/26/2003 1:56:05 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Read Hillary's hips. I never had sex with that woman.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

13 posted on 03/26/2003 1:59:10 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
San Francisco Bay Area filmmakers Gail Dolgin and Vicente Franco, who were nominated in the documentary feature category for Daughter From Danang, accepted Moore's invitation to "stand in solidarity" with him onstage during the award presentation. They said next day that they applaud Moore as a "patriot-plus"

They never said what they thought of their work losing to a piece of fiction. Maybe they also fabricated their documentary or had a low opinion of it.

14 posted on 03/26/2003 2:00:11 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Read Hillary's hips. I never had sex with that woman.")
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To: DoughtyOne; Jetboy; Russell Scott; Hillarys Gate Cult; All
The glaring comparison of Moore and coalition troops speaks volumes.


British troops on patrol in the desertAFP/POOL/Ian Jones)


British Royal Marines Omar Rawlings (L) and Del Morton of the 40th Commandos smile as they squeeze into their dug-in position in mud after heavy rainstorms north of the Al Faw peninsula on the approach to Basra, March 25, 2003. U.S. troops killed hundreds of Iraqi soldiers near the city of Najaf south of Baghdad without losing a man, the Pentagon said on Tuesday, as reports emerged of a possible popular uprising against Iraqi President Saddam Hussein in the southern city of Basra. REUTERS/POOL/Terry Richards


A U.S. Army engineer wakes up covered in dust after having to sleep outside during a dust and sandstorm in the desert, near the city of Najaf in central Iraq, March 24, 2003. A sandstorm blew in over U.S. troops advancing on Baghdad early on Tuesday, cutting visibility and hampering operations. REUTERS/Kai Pfaffenbach


Tue Mar 25,10:54 AM ET U.S. Army 3rd Infantry Division troops from the A Company 3rd Battalion 7th Infantry Regiment weather the elements as a sandstorm at dusk turns the desert blood red near Karbala Tuesday, March 25, 2003. The sandstorm grounded many US-led forces bombing overflights over Iraq and slowed U.S. military progress in the area near Karbala Tuesday. (AP Photo/John Moore)

15 posted on 03/26/2003 2:12:06 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Kaslin
Bump!
16 posted on 03/26/2003 2:12:54 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
You always have such thought provoking posts.
17 posted on 03/26/2003 2:39:55 AM PST by patj
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To: American in Israel
I suggest some time at a real job might be good for their souls

What souls? These people are moral degenerates and reprobates, subhuman filth which just happen to look like human beings. The "beautiful people" are actually the ugliest creatures ever to crawl out of the slime.

18 posted on 03/26/2003 2:55:54 AM PST by laz17 (Socialism is the religion of the atheist.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Michael Moore:

The Big Fat Idiot.

19 posted on 03/26/2003 3:03:26 AM PST by rambo316
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Leave it to Hollywood, where people pretend to be other people, pretend to sincere, and pretend to understand geo-political issues--to lecture the rest of us about "fiction."
20 posted on 03/26/2003 3:05:53 AM PST by SkyPilot
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