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To: rmlew
take the neocon fear of high Muslim immigration and make teh case for general immigration reform... use the current open hatred of the UN by Neocons as an opportunity to push them to accept sovereignty.

Those are positive suggestions that I would definately support. However, as Buchanan demonstrates with damning quotes, Neocons are dead set on establishing a world empire. They don't need the UN anymore and are using immigrant Muslims as an excuse to destroy the Bill of Rights.

For the record, I think Buchanan dwells a bit too heavily on Jewish influence since there are plenty of Jews on both sides of the neo/paleo divide. However, I will assert that Neoconservatives have replaced the Left as the greatest threat to our republican form of government.

95 posted on 03/26/2003 5:09:01 PM PST by Longshanks (It's a republic... if you can keep it.)
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To: Longshanks
However, as Buchanan demonstrates with damning quotes, Neocons are dead set on establishing a world empire.

1. I must have missed the quotes. Wheer does it say that the US should be a world empire?
2. Pat is off the deepend. He refuses to see that we have been in a clash of civilizations since 1979.
The prospect is too terrifyiong, so he wishes to throw Israel to the wolves in the hope that hey will ignore "the Great Satan."

For the record, I think Buchanan dwells a bit too heavily on Jewish influence since there are plenty of Jews on both sides of the neo/paleo divide. However, I will assert that Neoconservatives have replaced the Left as the greatest threat to our republican form of government.

Because they are willing to fight a war, that Pat wishes away?

I'm no fan of neocons. Their Wilsonian plan of spreading democracy by the sword is moronic.
Their poisition on immigration is suicidal and counter productive.
On the other hand, I believe that the paleocons are being overrun by neo-confederates, anarchistic language, and isolationism.

Both are new ideologies that have intrinsic problems.

96 posted on 03/26/2003 5:20:39 PM PST by rmlew ("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
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