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Kremlin Fires Back At Bush
The Moscow Times ^ | March 26, 2003 | Simon Saradzhyan and Nabi Abdullaev

Posted on 03/25/2003 6:30:04 PM PST by Mr. Mulliner

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1 posted on 03/25/2003 6:30:04 PM PST by Mr. Mulliner
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Oh sure, Putin called Bush to talk about a Russian company that sold jammers and night goggles to Iraq. What a crock of crap!
2 posted on 03/25/2003 6:33:47 PM PST by teletech (Can we bomb Saddam, NOW!?)
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Who thinks Putin could stop the traffic if he wanted to?

Maybe thats the administration's point: reveal just how tenuous is Putin's hold on Russia . Payback for non-support.

He's a 'Deadbeat Vlad'.

3 posted on 03/25/2003 6:34:06 PM PST by dasboot (The U.N. End it; don't mend it.)
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Oh! But I thought they said the cold war was over!
4 posted on 03/25/2003 6:35:48 PM PST by fellowpatriot
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I tend to agree. If there's any truth to Putin contacting Bush - and I have my doubts - it would be along the lines of "Don't blame me. I can't do anything about it."
5 posted on 03/25/2003 6:35:55 PM PST by Mr. Mulliner (I am deeply saddened that Tom Daschle is an anti-American turd.)
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So first they denied that the sales happened

now they say that they brought it up?
6 posted on 03/25/2003 6:38:58 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (In those days... Every man did that which was right in his own eyes.)
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Ruck Fussia.
7 posted on 03/25/2003 6:41:03 PM PST by jimbo123
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The oblique 'slam' would be consistant, too, (I reckon) with the reality that we're stuck with supporting Vlad, 'cause the enroaching alternative, now puhing itself up Vlad's wazoo using Arab mercenaries, is a heckofalot worse.

Damn commies are like dogs**t on Russia's shoes.

8 posted on 03/25/2003 6:45:38 PM PST by dasboot (The U.N. End it; don't mend it.)
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Why don't these Russians get their sh** together?? They rely way to much on criminal black markets.
9 posted on 03/25/2003 6:47:21 PM PST by Porterville (Screw the grammar, full posting ahead.)
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we need to be real careful with this. if there is one country who can and would sell AQ a small, working nuclear weapon, its russia, especially their organized crime establishment. this issue needs to go away. we don't need to make another enemy over some goggles you could buy over the internet, and some jammers that don't work.
10 posted on 03/25/2003 6:51:01 PM PST by oceanview
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Moscow is as much a target for an Islamic nuke as is NYC.
11 posted on 03/25/2003 6:55:00 PM PST by tomahawk
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Do you have reason to believe that Vlad has any influence or control over the black market?

From what I understand, the BM is operated by crime thugs who use old, out of work commie thugs--and their still-breathing 'business' network--- to move product.

To believe, therefore, that Vlad is part of the BM, is to establish his Communist sympathies. I still don't believe he wants to go back there.

But I'm also shocked and awed by his late alignment with the UN over the US. Bad medicine. Might be what he thinks is necessary to stay alive...and 'alive'. Or he's still on the dark side.

Can you enlighten?

12 posted on 03/25/2003 6:57:11 PM PST by dasboot (The U.N. End it; don't mend it.)
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not if they cut a deal for their own "protection" as part of the sale
13 posted on 03/25/2003 6:59:50 PM PST by oceanview
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Stopped reading after the bald face lie, Fleischer never said who called whom.

Note the socialist from Russia, nit-pick over stupid things ignoring the subject matter, rather like the socialist liberals right here. So Clinton like, cry wolf, while stabbing you looking you right in the eye.


14 posted on 03/25/2003 7:02:38 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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Oh sure, Putin called Bush to talk about a Russian company that sold jammers and night goggles to Iraq.

Actually, it appears the new Russian line is that Putin called Bush out of the blue to tell him about all the illegal weapons he wasn't selling to Iraq.

15 posted on 03/25/2003 7:03:55 PM PST by Dog Gone
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If these are the commonly available models you can wave byebye to the guy wearing them. These are not passive units they use a illuminator (think flashlight). Our guys will see them a long time before they see us. I'm not to concerned about these items but want to hear about the missiles found with the 2002 date stamp on it and Cyrillic writing.
16 posted on 03/25/2003 7:24:21 PM PST by Kadric
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I think Sec. Rumsfeld put at least 6 of the GPS jamming devices "to bed", along with the foolish ones in Iraq who tried to use them. Apparently, such devices send out a signal that our weapons can lock on to...

Sec. Rumsfeld said, "we've taken care of those 6 jamming devices." Somewhere in Iraq there are 6 additional large divits in the turf that wouldn't have been there without someone trying to use the jammers. :-)

(I wonder if there were warning instructions that came with those jammers about the dangers of uses them within 10 miles of high performance jets armed with radar seeking missiles?)
17 posted on 03/25/2003 7:26:15 PM PST by Victor K ("There was a man, who came from God. They called him John." John 1)
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Putin told Bush that Russian authorities have repeatedly "supplied information on the absence of such supplies," according to Gromov.

Apparently the Russians think we're a bunch of f'ing idiots.

I'm sure they regularly provide info on what they're NOT doing.

18 posted on 03/25/2003 7:26:25 PM PST by ez (Advise and Consent = Debate and VOTE!!)
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...we don't need to make another enemy over some goggles you could buy over the internet, and some jammers that don't work.

I could overlook this stuff, and if that was all that Russia had sold to Iraq, I'd say Bush was overreacting.

Selling Saddam antitank missiles, however, is something else altogether. This needs to be settled, and quick - if Russia's willing to sell him this kind of stuff, what might they be willing to sell him when we're really breathing down his neck?

19 posted on 03/25/2003 7:33:38 PM PST by CFC__VRWC (Note to Tom Dashcle: If I want your opinion, I'll ask Chirac for it.)
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Night goggles are against the UN sanctions of items of sale to Iraq...
20 posted on 03/25/2003 7:34:32 PM PST by marajade
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