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The gas chamber test wasn't about speed of fitting the mask, it was about handling the gas. She didn't sing the hymn for fun, she sang it because that was the test, full deep breaths (which the singing necessitates) in a chamber filled with CS for around 30 seconds...

Beg your pardon, but you're spouting this BS to an infantry officer who has led units through combat training evolutions many times, and through combat once -- so I might have a clue about the purpose of that training. Let's not confuse a training aid with with the real thing.

We don't wear protective gear to survive enemy use of nonlethal gas, so the purchase of the gas chamber is not to prove that you can "handle" the CS gas. The purpose of the nuisance gas is to add emphasis and realism to the training, and to instill trust in the proper use of the protective gear. Rest assured that when that gear has to be used in combat, it will be because the enemy employs a deadly substance which no unmasked person can "handle."

...now you're changing the subject. It was about the women facing the horrors of combat now you're talking about the shipmates. Stick to the subject.

It was you who asked about the effect of women upon unit cohesion. Human nature and unit cohesion are inextricably related, and it is apparent that you understand neither.

They're discussing letting women in the NFL RIGHT NOW. They're having to because so many college teams are letting them be kickers. It's coming. I know you wont be man enough to apologize when the NFL proves you horribly worng though.

Yeah. Right.

So you actually think the weakest man can squat 155 kilos... So much for the strongest woman being equivalent to the weakest man.

Policy isn't made on account of freakish examples of either sex. You still have the mistaken impression that fitness for combat can be determined in a series of tests, and that a handful of geeked-up amazons are therefore qualified as warriors. If you ever witnessed two men fight to the death (or if you were ever one of them), the level of sheer brutality would erase all of your grand illusions.

Uh, I think you're talking to a man who is convinced of his convictions because he has seen it done so many times. In movies and television stories, and read it in novels.

My heart goes out to the CMC, who has to deal with this shit. I would have loved to see the political brass try it with Chesty Puller.

The problem with your "explaination" of the the chamber is that they wore the masks on the way in, took them off at a signal, sang as much of the hymn as they could then left.

It was me that asked for PROOF of problems with unit cohesion, not more of your unsupported supposition.

You said the strongest woman was only as strong as the weakest man. That's an exact quote. There's an example of the strongest woman. You lose.