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JIM LACEY'S [Time Reporter] SPECULATION
National Review's The Corner ^ | 3/23/03 | Rod Dreher

Posted on 03/23/2003 6:02:31 AM PST by William McKinley

One of the soldiers wounded in the grenade attack has now died. On the phone live with Fox just now, Time magazine reporter Jim Lacey, an eyewitness to the devastation at Camp Pennsylvania, made the following statement about the possible motivation of the soldier suspected of participating in the deadly attack:

"I do not think it's a chain of command problem. I don't think this is a soldier disgruntled with the military. I think this was someone striking out because of a misguided interpretation of his Muslim faith."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 101stattack; blackmuslims; islam; timemagazine
Non-radical American muslims, you have a real problem on your hand. You guys have to do a lot better at reclaiming your faith from these extremists, or America is going to have to re-evaluate certain tenets of our nation.
1 posted on 03/23/2003 6:02:31 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: William McKinley
BUMP
2 posted on 03/23/2003 6:15:39 AM PST by JOE6PAK (24 hours in a day ... 24 beers in a case ... coincidence?)
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To: William McKinley
"I do not think it's a chain of command problem. I don't think this is a soldier disgruntled with the military. I think this was someone striking out because of a misguided interpretation of his Muslim faith."

This scumbag seems to be an American Black who converted to Islam. He may or may not belong to Calypso Louie's outfit. Many Blacks take up Islam without belonging to Farrakhan's group. Many are free-lance Muslims. My speculation is this guy does not belong to Nation of Islam. And about him being disturbed and crazy? This meshes well with being a Muslim convert.

 misguided interpretation of his Muslim faith."

Not necessarily. Many Muslims world wide believe in the doctrine of Jihad. Sabotaging and vanquishing the "enemies" of moon gawd Allah

3 posted on 03/23/2003 6:19:05 AM PST by dennisw
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To: William McKinley

The evil doer

4 posted on 03/23/2003 6:20:52 AM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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To: William McKinley
I saw this report live last night. A soldier being interviewed off-camera called the guy a "mal-content." He said the guy had been so for a period of several days.
5 posted on 03/23/2003 6:27:38 AM PST by Clara Lou (... Democrats, united as ever in opportunism and error.)
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To: Clara Lou
This guy had similar problems in the army...


6 posted on 03/23/2003 6:32:52 AM PST by ErnBatavia ((bumperootus!))
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To: MrBambaLaMamba
Get a rope.
7 posted on 03/23/2003 6:32:55 AM PST by schaketo
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To: William McKinley
Good post bump.
8 posted on 03/23/2003 6:36:28 AM PST by mickie
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To: William McKinley
Since when do "disgruntled" soldiers work in concert with Iraqis who are recent hires as interpretors

Since when do they act under the cover of an "air raid" siren

The grenades were cached..which begs premeditation

The Brigade Commander's tent and the tents of C&C members were targeted

As the commander exited his tent (according to first reports) he came under small arms fire by first reports

The enemey knew who they were looking for and where he would exit-this makes it an assassination attempt on the Brigade commander by at least one muslim under his indirect command..perhaps more..

If you listend to Lacy's report when it was fresh...(and I agree) this soldier was not 101 but attached as an engineer...

The officers attacked were NOT his superiors and he would have had NO contact with them whatsoever..they would not have been the ones to reprimand him..The Brigade Commander would not reprimand or make decisons about his going along or not this would be the province of his immediated superior NCO or company commander in the engineers..

I have witnessed a fraggin attempt in Vietnam (the ususal suspects) against a senior NCO
who was giving unpopular orders and dished out non judicial punishment..

The perps didnt frag the brigade commander...they went after what they percieved to be their persecutor..

And they certainly didnt conspire with the local VC to do it either...had they and they been communists or of vietnamese extraction it would have been appropriate imo to look for a greater conspiracy among those whose religon or political beliefs may oppose the greater agenda of the Army

he was an NCO which assumes a "Secret" security clearance (they give these out to muslims?)
This was well planned and co-ordinated decapitiation attack..and assassination attempt imo on the leaders of the 101

The spin that this was a fragging attempt is ongoing even on FOX

This would be understandable as to not cause internal strife at this critical juncture...however if there is a co-ordinated attempt by muslim americans to aid their muslim brothers this certainly needs to be addressed...before another attack is successfull at an even more critical juncture in the fighting..

imo
9 posted on 03/23/2003 6:38:28 AM PST by joesnuffy
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To: joesnuffy
Certain parts of what you just wrote do not jibe with what I heard. The story I heard was that the small arms firing was at the perps, not by the perps.

I also heard that while they had another person in custody (not a soldier), the other was not one of the interpreters- they had been cleared.

10 posted on 03/23/2003 6:43:50 AM PST by William McKinley (You're so vain, you probably think this tagline's about you)
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To: William McKinley
I was watcing fox listening to the initial reports and drawing on my own experience with fraggin by disgruntles soldiers
vs what is imo spin by later reporters..
If you heard the first reports from the embedded reporter vs the limey from sky news even Shep Smith blew off his (the brits) report and told him the military told them to believe the embeds first..
It was interesting because the brit who wasnt anywhere near the action was already spinning the story of a "disgruntled" soldier something both the intital Fox embed and Lacy (who is quoted ) denied as well......
The guy on the scene first stated small arms fire was directed at the Brigade Commanders tent..
There certainly was firing back...once the explosions went off to the rear the guys on perimerter guard would open up automatically even if they didnt see anything...
One perp was wounded...by our guys...
11 posted on 03/23/2003 6:48:48 AM PST by joesnuffy
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To: ErnBatavia
This guy had similar problems in the army...

They call it the "I don't like being told what to do by Whitey" syndrome.

Frag him.

12 posted on 03/23/2003 6:55:41 AM PST by A2J (Those who truly understand peace know that its father is war.)
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To: joesnuffy
I don't think this is a case of merely being disgruntled; I do trust the embeddeds' words before those of the anchors. However, I tend to believe the reports that say the gunfire was at the guy, since I have heard no reports of him hitting anything with gunfire, which he almost certainly would have if he was firing, since he would have had complete surprise at that point.
13 posted on 03/23/2003 6:57:01 AM PST by William McKinley (You're so vain, you probably think this tagline's about you)
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To: schaketo; William McKinley
He's a Muslim, and it seems he was just against the war, military sources said the attack appeared to be politically motivated rather than personal.

The best way to end war and ensure peace is to kill the enemy.

14 posted on 03/23/2003 10:59:12 AM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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To: schaketo
You wrote:

"Get a rope."

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Your comment is completely inappropiate.

While I understand verbally saying something you might regret...you had time to think before typing and sending your post.

FWIW...I understand your "thinking"....but we still don't live by mob rule....despite what the left thinks.

15 posted on 03/23/2003 11:07:25 AM PST by Osage Orange (Tony Blair: "Ah yes, liberal democrats unified as ever in opportunism and in error")
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To: William McKinley
I think this was someone striking out because of a misguided interpretation of his Muslim faith.

On what basis should we conclude that this murdering, cowardly traitor was a "misguided" Muslim?

What has he done that Mohammed wouldn't?




16 posted on 03/23/2003 11:12:49 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Remember that the 911 hijackers were nervous and edgy before the hijackings, per eyewitness accounts. Just because the guy was "disgruntled" doesn't mean a thing. What counts is that he is a Muslim before being an American. I hope after this attack, the military isolates or sends home any other "disgruntled" Muslim soldiers.
17 posted on 03/23/2003 11:37:54 AM PST by The Westerner
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To: ErnBatavia
Yep. I immediately thought of John Mohammed too.
18 posted on 03/23/2003 11:39:09 AM PST by rintense (The tyrant will soon be gone... or extremely dead.)
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To: Osage Orange
"FWIW...I understand your "thinking"....but we still don't live by mob rule....despite what the left thinks."

and what do you call war? A parlor game? You can suggest my "get a rope" comment is "mob rule" or you can call it swift justice. Perception is reality. You don't seem to agree with my reality. That's life or ....
19 posted on 03/27/2003 6:59:23 PM PST by schaketo
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To: schaketo
You wrote:

"and what do you call war? A parlor game? You can suggest my "get a rope" comment is "mob rule" or you can call it swift justice. Perception is reality. You don't seem to agree with my reality. That's life or ...."

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No..I call war what it is. But your "get a rope" comment with it's sometimes implied racial meaning...( Note: I'm not saying this was your intent.., but as you say, "Perception is reality"..) was and remains uncalled for...even without any implied intent...As this country still generally has standards..that we are supposed to live by. And thus my "mob rule" comment.........

FWIW-

20 posted on 03/28/2003 12:35:30 PM PST by Osage Orange (Hillary's heart...is as dark as the devil's riding boots.)
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