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To: TLBSHOW; Sabertooth; Howlin; nopardons; Poohbah; mhking; rdb3; Miss Marple; Luis Gonzalez; ...
I read Mr. York's article and it points out that Mr. Gaffney NEVER provided further proof. Furthermore, the staffer he accused was one who NONE had problems with.

"In the weeks since, Gaffney has not offered any evidence to back up his charges. Instead, he now says the problem he was addressing was not Tulbah specifically, but the issue of poor political judgment at the White House. Nor have several experts on Islam and terrorism who are generally allied with Gaffney been able to point to any problems with Tulbah."

Quite frankly, I question his credibility. I question the credibility of those like you and Sabertooth who conduct such a witch hunt.

Mr. Gaffney owes a few apologies. I am NOT going to sit back and let the slanderous comments you two post against anyone who disagrees with YOUR interpretation of conservatism continue. You want to make it a fight and divide conservatives over disagreements, FINE. But I'll call you two on it.

You provoked a flame war and got Luis Gonzalez suspended. Fine,t hat is your perogative, but eventually, people will deicde they would rather not be associated with you or your causes. And you will be on the margins.
1,371 posted on 03/23/2003 2:09:20 PM PST by hchutch ("But tonight we get EVEN!" - Ice-T)
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To: hchutch
Luis got suspended? Exactly who was responsible for that?
1,372 posted on 03/23/2003 2:18:03 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: hchutch
I read Mr. York's article and it points out that Mr. Gaffney NEVER provided further proof. Furthermore, the staffer he accused was one who NONE had problems with.

"In the weeks since, Gaffney has not offered any evidence to back up his charges. Instead, he now says the problem he was addressing was not Tulbah specifically,"

Unfortunately, York hasn't done his homework, as you should know.
On February 21st, the evidence demonstrating Gaffney's charge was posted here, to you, among others.

Quite frankly, I question his credibility. I question the credibility of those like you and Sabertooth who conduct such a witch hunt.

You, quite frankly, haven't had the stones to address any of what's been posted, thinking somehow that a repetition of falsehoods would bear scrutiny. Last I heard, you didn't want to talk about this issue, so I left it alone with you. Since then, I've opted not to get into the subject on FR while our troops are in harm's way, though if there's some relevant breaking story I might decide otherwise.

If you really want to delve into this at some point, flag me later.

I am NOT going to sit back and let the slanderous comments you two post against anyone who disagrees with YOUR interpretation of conservatism continue. You want to make it a fight and divide conservatives over disagreements, FINE. But I'll call you two on it.

Again with the false premises. There is no attempt on my part to divide conservatives, but to focus a spotlight on the penetration of our political institutions by terrorist sympathizers, and their enablers. It's baffling that you would think conservatives could be divided over that.

You provoked a flame war and got Luis Gonzalez suspended. Fine,t hat is your perogative, but eventually, people will deicde they would rather not be associated with you or your causes. And you will be on the margins.

He's a big boy with his own penchant for flame wars, and he ended up buring himself this time out, your revisionism notwithstanding.

There's an easy formula for not getting suspended... don't violate the FR posting guidelines.




1,376 posted on 03/23/2003 2:46:36 PM PST by Sabertooth
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Blame someone else for Luis Gonzalez own problem? Very Clinton of you to do that. As for Frank I will take his word over someone like Grover who has friends that are nothing more than terrorist front operations in this country for the sole purpose of destroying it.

Like Cair and the AMC. And who knows what else he is doing. I am sure Frank will expose them and Grover as time goes on. Like he exposed the Muslim clerics in the field with the troops. On Fox news yesterday.

I am working on getting Frank for a Radio FR show and I will have call in if it can be arranged so you can ask him whatever you want, but I warn you his case against Grover is very strong..

He may or may not do the show as it isn't firm yet. But Stay tuned!


1,378 posted on 03/23/2003 2:57:46 PM PST by TLBSHOW (The gift is to see the truth......)
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Last thing next time you want to blame someone for a problem try getting the right ones as it wasn't sabertooth or me that this was between.

Try Thorondir and Luis......

I will await your apology! Which I am sure won't come.


1,382 posted on 03/23/2003 3:04:44 PM PST by TLBSHOW (The gift is to see the truth......)
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To: Sabertooth; hchutch
I'm down with both of you like four flats on a dumptruck.

I'll just continue to observe.


Young, American, conservative-transcender, cocky, and black. Don't like it? Sounds like a personal problem to me.

1,388 posted on 03/23/2003 3:33:56 PM PST by rdb3 (rdb3, Tha SYNDICATE, and now bringing the FIRE to Project 21. Uh, oh...)
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