Sun man sees surrender ("troops shot their own commanders")

The Sun ^ | March 21, 2003

[Tauzero]

"I am sure those Iraqis are pleasantly surprised that they don't need to give money to be treated decently"

On the other hand, some of their officers will be very scared by men who have no price.

[Riley]

Not sure what you mean by 'web gear' but if by 'boot polish' you mean black, then look at all the other country's uniforms, which are generally in tans and other sandy colors.

Web gear, webbing, 782 gear, Deuce gear- all names for the combination of belt, harness and various pouches that a soldier or Marine in the field wears in order to carry immediate and essential items like ammunition, canteens, first aid supplies, and other necessary bits of kit.

It is distinct and separate from the back pack that an infantryman carries, which contains less frequently used things like food, bedroll, shaving kit, a shelter half and so forth.

Apparently, it is traditional in the Royal Marines to blacken the webbing. I am all for tradition in the forces, as long as it isn't something that might compromise one's acheivement of the goal at hand.

Here is an example of Royal Marine kit blacked as described:
http://www.britains-smallwars.com/Museum/Suez/webbing.html

[Riley]

The 'Sun Man'. Wonder if he files dispatches from an Ultrasparc laptop? :-)

[Grampa Dave]

IRAQI troops shot their own commanders with Kalashnikov rifles — so they could surrender.

These Iraqi's choose well. Now if those in Baghdad will do the same and take out the inbred Soddomites and the top 100 thugs under them, it will be over.

[Grampa Dave]

When your country is ruled by inbred psychos like Saddam and the thugs under him, and your military uses the guranteed to lose tactics of the Russian advisors. You need to do two things to survive:

#1. Kill the thugs over you!

#2. Use the tried and proven French Battle Plan shown below:

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks for the thread and the pictures of MOAD or MOTHER OF ALL DESERTIONS!

[demlosers]

Have a pint mate!

Winning the hearts and minds.

[DCPatriot]

What do you mean "WTF"?

It's a basic human tenet to plead for your life by bribing with personal assets. Have you ever been mugged? ;^)

[PistolPaknMama]

You're bad! Can you do that with a Corona?

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

Bump for later read.

[SuziQ]

I saw how the Commandos handled the prisoners and can report their treatment was exceptionally good

I'm glad journalists are inbedded with the troops for just this reason! Most of these journalists can not be accused of being butt-kissers to the British Govt., so it makes what they report even more important.

[SuziQ]

With them was a large sports holdall stuffed with money. They insisted that they had been about to pay their troops, to the disbelief of their captors.

Yeah, that's the ticket. That's what that money was for!

I wonder how they escaped the fate of the other officers? Had they been in hiding from their own soldiers?

[RogueIsland]

These captives, in fear of their lives and the unknown, were likely just trying to buy themselves some insurance in the only way they know.

I suspect that is exactly the explanation.

[FairOpinion]

Yes, I read there is a lot of speculation about the Sumerians.

Ancient history is fascinating.

[Dec31,1999]

bump!