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Border group members face felony charges
World Net Daily ^ | 3-21-03 | By Jon Dougherty

Posted on 03/21/2003 9:14:39 AM PST by Technoman

HEBBRONVILLE, Texas – A pair of Ranch Rescue volunteers arrested here Wednesday are facing two felony charges each, Texas Department of Public Safety officials say.

As WorldNetDaily reported yesterday, Casey Nethercutt of California and Hank Conner of Louisiana were arrested by Texas Ranger Sgt. Doyle Holdridge and charged with two counts of aggravated assault with a weapon and two counts of unlawful restraint for allegedly pistol-whipping and detaining a Salvadoran man and his wife early Wednesday morning.

Nethercutt and Conner were part of a four-man detachment from Ranch Rescue – a property-rights activist group – which was led by Texas chapter head and national spokesman Jack Foote. The four-man contingent, at the request of rancher Joe Sutton, was here to prevent criminal trespassers from crossing Sutton's property.

Law enforcement and other sources say the men are being held in a detention facility in nearby Falfurrias. Officials said yesterday that bond for each man had been set at $200,000. The men were expected to be arraigned in Hebbronville this morning.

Holdridge told WorldNetDaily that the Salvadoran couple – a man and woman described as being in their mid-20s, but whose names have not yet been released – bore some visible physical signs of injury. After Nethercutt and Conner were apprehended, the Salvadoran couple picked the men out of a photo array, said the arresting officer.

Foote said the charges are bogus. He said he and his team "never touched" the couple, "except to pat them down and search them for weapons" after discovering them lying down in brush early Wednesday morning around 1 a.m. He says he has pictures to prove it, although they weren't available at publication time.

After Nethercutt and Conner searched the two Salvadorans, said Foote, they "were taken by van" to the front of Sutton's property, which is guarded by a heavy, steel, sliding gate that remains locked along Hwy. 16.

In the interim, said Foote, the U.S. Border Patrol – which mans an inspection station about seven miles north of Sutton's ranch – was notified to come pick up the Salvadorans. But after waiting around 45 minutes, Sutton grew impatient and ordered his detachment to simply open the front gate and release the Salvadoran couple, said Foote.

The Border Patrol arrived about 10 minutes later, said Foote. Sources told WND the Salvadoran couple eventually turned themselves in to Border Patrol officers, but agency officials would not confirm that.

Border Patrol spokesmen in Hebbronville and Laredo had no comment, except to say the case was being handled by Texas authorities.

It was unclear how the Salvadorans' testimony was obtained; neither Holdridge nor Jim Hogg County Sheriff's Department officials would say. Holdridge did say Wednesday, however, that the Salvadoran couple did not swear out a complaint.

"I filed charges on behalf of the state of Texas," he told WND.

In addition to legal problems, Nethercutt, who is in his mid-30s, and Conner, who was described as being nearly 60, have experienced health problems since being incarcerated. Officials say Nethercutt is suffering complications from pancreatitis, while Conner is suffering from chronic high blood pressure.

Authorities allowed volunteers to bring Conner medicine early yesterday, but refused to allow them to visit Nethercutt. Officials were also unclear as to whether Nethercutt had been taken for treatment to an area hospital or whether he was being treated on-site at a detention center health facility.

Foote says he is confident the men will be exonerated, but believes they will have to endure a lengthy court battle to prove their innocence. He also said he is having difficulty raising bail money and that he asked Sutton to help, but that he refused.

Although the current "mission" on Sutton's ranch is over, Foote pledges that the incident won't permanently damage Ranch Rescue.

"We just have to pick our battles," he said. "Right now, I just want to get these guys out of jail."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: borderpatrol; ranchers
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To: Boot Hill
Yeah, I'd like this clarified. I did a lot of research into Arizona law, and the action has to either be a felony or a couple of specified misdemeanors, such as riot or religious intimidation on a homeowner's property. From what I saw on an initial Google search, Texas law required witnessing a felony in progress, but there may be some misdemeanor provisions, either by specific crime or by misdemeanor class. Now, it would be interesting to see law regarding citizens arrest for a federal misdemeanor.
61 posted on 03/21/2003 12:14:37 PM PST by dirtboy (Render yourself invisible to the media - attend a Rally for America today!)
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To: Boot Hill
Boot Hill, I think you're wrong, and that Houston law firm is giving out bad information that may get someone into trouble. Here is the Texas Code regarding powers of arrest without a warrant:

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/cgi-bin/cqcgi?CQ_SESSION_KEY=SOGNEEVOQKNV&CQ_QUERY_HANDLE=125792&CQ_CUR_DOCUMENT=59&CQ_TLO_DOC_TEXT=YES

CHAPTER FOURTEEN—ARREST WITHOUT WARRANT

Art. 14.01. [212] [259] [247] Offense within view

(a) A peace officer or any other person, may, without a warrant, arrest an offender when the offense is committed in his presence or within his view, if the offense is one classed as a felony or as an offense against the public peace.

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Offense against the peace typically is construed as rioting (Arizona has a similar provision, as I mentioned).

62 posted on 03/21/2003 12:25:45 PM PST by dirtboy (Render yourself invisible to the media - attend a Rally for America today!)
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To: dirtboy
Looking for that Federal Citizen's Arrest for Misdemeanor info and ran across this interesting little tidbit from the USCG site....check it out-sounds like something that could get any of us labeled as seperatists or sumthin'

http://www.uscg.mil/d7/d7dl/criminal_law.htm
63 posted on 03/21/2003 12:36:23 PM PST by EBUCK (FIRE!....rounds downrange! http://www.azfire.org)
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To: EBUCK
Oklahoma PD's "Self Arrest Form"

http://www.ou.edu/oupd/selfarr2.htm
64 posted on 03/21/2003 12:41:32 PM PST by EBUCK (FIRE!....rounds downrange! http://www.azfire.org)
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To: EBUCK
Didn't get the whole thing....That's title 8 section 1325 of the US Code therefore all violators of this code are in fact Felons and therefore subject to citizen arrest.

The statute you cited provides for a 6-month maximum sentence for a first offense. That's a misdemeanor, not a felony.

65 posted on 03/21/2003 1:08:27 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: dirtboy
I searched that website of Texas State Statutes and can't find anything to dispute what you said in your post #62, so I emailed that Houston law firm (don't you just love the internet?) to see what they have to say. But I'll be shocked if it turns out that Texas citizen's don't have the right to make a citizen's arrest for any misdemeanor committed in their presence.

Let's wait and see if that law firm has any comment.

--Boot Hill

66 posted on 03/21/2003 1:31:24 PM PST by Boot Hill
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To: Boot Hill
I searched that website of Texas State Statutes and can't find anything to dispute what you said in your post #62,

All the other arrest without warrant sections only mentioned a peace officer, and did not include the phrase or any other person - so it looks like this paragraph is the only one that covers citizens arrest in the arrest powers section of the Texas code. Maybe there are some powers lurking elsewhere in the code...

67 posted on 03/21/2003 1:33:15 PM PST by dirtboy (Render yourself invisible to the media - attend a Rally for America today!)
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To: Tancredo Fan
Interesting priorities here.

While this is going on, six Iraqis are trying to smuggle chem or bio weapons across that border.

68 posted on 03/21/2003 1:53:05 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: Technoman
bump for later reading
69 posted on 03/21/2003 1:55:55 PM PST by FirstTomato ("In the end,We will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends" M L King)
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To: B Knotts
That's what I just heard from the AmericanBorderPatrol.com. I guess they heard it from Fox News. ABP is on the border right now and it's wide open, as usual. Check their website.
70 posted on 03/21/2003 1:56:52 PM PST by Tancredo Fan
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To: dirtboy
As Northern Arizona Coordinator for Ranch Rescue I wish to comment on the situation in TX.

It is the law in TX, as it is here in Arizona, that a trespasser MAY BE SEARCHED for weapons or contraband by the party detaining him/her. As we act as agents for the landowner, we have the same rights as he. This is not considered assault. This is allowed as a means of self-defense.

The men arrested were at all times in view of other members of Ranch Rescue as well as a French journalist whose affidavit will be presented to the court.

Some interesting facts pertain to this case and they point to collusion between the sheriff and the TX Rangers office to railroad RR members.

Just prior to the arrival of RR members on the property Sheriff Alarcon issued a warning about possible foreign troops being active. Men in fatigues doing military type exercises were "seen" many times OVER THE LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS. Why the alert after that long a period of time?
Perhaps the sheriff didn't know where RR was operating and hoped a citizen would tell him of their whereabouts thinking they were foreign troops. Was he hoping a local would play hero and take a potshot at the RR members, provoking a return of gunfire so that he, the sheriff could "cook" the evidence to make it appear that the RR members had fired first? A story appears on the Ranch Rescue website, www.ranchrescue.com, which puts the Jim Hogg County Sheriff's Dep't. in a bad light concerning protecting citizens against criminal aliens. Is this the sheriff's revenge? Did his benefactors in the Mexican drug cartel order him to frame our men and supply him the illegals with which to do it? Why would a couple with guest worker visas cross illegally when they could have taken a bus across?

The feds, state gov'ts and county politicos have shown a great disdain for groups like Ranch Rescue, Civil Homeland Defense and American Border Patrol. Is this one way they hope to shut us down?

Why were the men arrested by the TX Rangers and not the sheriff? The sheriff is authorized to make arrests in the case of violation of state law.

The two RR members were taken to a Ranger barracks four hours from the site of the alleged incident. For several hours that day we were unable to find their location due to the "bureaucratic shuffle" played by the sheriff and Rangers.

One man requires insulin twice a day and was not allowed to have it. He ended up in the hospital due to internal bleeding. The other takes two meds for high blood pressure. It was taken to him by other volunteers at the site.

The men are being held for $200,000 bail each. This is probably a record for an assault case. Obviously, the judge is in on the scam!

The men were to be arraigned today but it will probably be postponed due to the hospitalization of one of them.

All the members of Ranch Rescue Arizona stand behind our friends and expect this kind of charade to continue as we hold more operations in the future. Not one member of RRAZ has called it quits. I believe none will!

David Cheney
Northern Arizona Coordinator fo Ranch Rescue

"I have the God-given right to defend myself; the God-given duty to defend my neighbor." The Captain



71 posted on 03/21/2003 2:35:34 PM PST by raggedwarrior
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To: raggedwarrior
Well, it definitely sounds like political prosecution. BTW, can you provide cites for this?

It is the law in TX, as it is here in Arizona, that a trespasser MAY BE SEARCHED for weapons or contraband by the party detaining him/her.

I'm not challenging you, I want to have this available, as I'm trying to stay up to speed on the law regarding this matter.

72 posted on 03/21/2003 2:37:54 PM PST by dirtboy (Render yourself invisible to the media - attend a Rally for America today!)
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To: junta
Well Stated. I find it absolutely mind blowing that as our brave soldiers put their life on the line overseas, thousands of Mexican Nationals and God knows who else continue to pour across our borders every day, unimpeded. And I have to wonder sometimes what we are asking our solders to die for.

Just look at what illegal immigration has done to the once great state of CA and the other Border States. What can one say about a government that willingly allows another country to build their own illegal colonies here, insert their politicos directly into OUR domestic political affairs, bleed American Taxpayers white and put struggling Americans out of work. It's just incredible that large regions of America are being literally taken over by Mexico’s citizens, silently, while our leaders find new enemies in foreign lands.

And to those Wild Eyed Zealots who support the wacky notion that we can spread an American Empire to every corner of the globe, presumably by the blood of someone else’s kid (not their kids of course), you are in for a RUDE awakening. You are going to find out that the rapidly growing contingent of unassimilated Hispanics and other third world immigrants really don’t appreciate or understand the concept of limited government or our rule of law. And with their growing political clout they will most definately put America permanently in the hands of the democratic party…that is, unless, the republican party keeps drifting ever more leftward like it has for the last 20 years. Either way, conservatism will be a dead ideology in a Balkanized America. Perhaps that is the plan.

73 posted on 03/21/2003 3:09:16 PM PST by WRhine
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To: dirtboy

AZ LAW: NO DUTY TO RETREAT!

Arizona state law: there is apparently no "duty to retreat" when faced with violent criminal activity, and the use of deadly force is lawful when Citizens are attempting to prevent these crimes or to apprehend the perpetrators. 13-411. Justification; use of force in crime prevention

A. A person is justified in threatening or using both physical force and deadly physical force against another if and to the extent the person reasonably believes that physical force or deadly physical force is immediately necessary to prevent the other's commission of arson of an occupied structure under section 13-1704, burglary in the second or first degree under section 13-1507 or 13-1508, kidnapping under section 13-1304, manslaughter under section 13-1103, second or first degree murder under section 13-1104 or 13-1105, sexual conduct with a minor under section 13-1405, sexual assault under section 13-1406, child molestation under section 13-1410, armed robbery under section 13-1904, or aggravated assault under section 13-1204, subsection A, paragraphs 1 and 2.

B. There is no duty to retreat before threatening or using deadly physical force justified by subsection A of this section.

C. A person is presumed to be acting reasonably for the purposes of this section if he is acting to prevent the commission of any of the offenses listed in subsection A of this section.

You can run a search on the other statutes referred to at http://www.megalaw.com/az/azcode.php

74 posted on 03/21/2003 3:22:46 PM PST by raggedwarrior
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Last time I looked Manuel and his son, Jorge weren't white trash. But I'm sure to someone such as you anyone who acts to defend his neighbor or country is white trash. BTW, what color trash are YOU? For you certainly write like some kind of trash. Is it your way of covering up
your lack of concern for the crimes of theft, vandalism, assault, armed robbery, home invasion, rape, kidnapping and murder committed by criminal aliens against my neighbors living along the border. It isn't happening to you so you don't give a damn! Or are you just too cowardly to stand up to the tide of invaders flowing across our southern border. Seems to be the problem with most "Americans"!

David Cheney
Northern Arizona Coordinator for Ranch Rescue

"I have the God-given right to defend myself; the God-given duty to defend my neighbor." The Captain
75 posted on 03/21/2003 3:43:11 PM PST by raggedwarrior
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To: xsrdx
The law states that a guest of the landowner may act as his agent and detain trespassers on the landowners property. These illegals were ON PRIVATE PROPERTY!! They were not at the border but several miles north of it.

David Cheney
76 posted on 03/21/2003 3:48:30 PM PST by raggedwarrior
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To: Semaphore Heathcliffe

Saying that the breaking of laws have consequences may be inflamatory remarks at DU or LP, but not on a conservative forum.

77 posted on 03/21/2003 4:15:59 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: dirtboy
This is for everyone posting on this subject. The illegal aliens were NOT on the border. THEY WERE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY APPROXIMATELY 50 MILES INSIDE THE U.S. Once and for all, let's have that understood by everyone. Not picking on you, dirtboy.

David Cheney
79 posted on 03/21/2003 5:26:18 PM PST by raggedwarrior
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