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Border group members face felony charges
World Net Daily ^ | 3-21-03 | By Jon Dougherty

Posted on 03/21/2003 9:14:39 AM PST by Technoman

HEBBRONVILLE, Texas – A pair of Ranch Rescue volunteers arrested here Wednesday are facing two felony charges each, Texas Department of Public Safety officials say.

As WorldNetDaily reported yesterday, Casey Nethercutt of California and Hank Conner of Louisiana were arrested by Texas Ranger Sgt. Doyle Holdridge and charged with two counts of aggravated assault with a weapon and two counts of unlawful restraint for allegedly pistol-whipping and detaining a Salvadoran man and his wife early Wednesday morning.

Nethercutt and Conner were part of a four-man detachment from Ranch Rescue – a property-rights activist group – which was led by Texas chapter head and national spokesman Jack Foote. The four-man contingent, at the request of rancher Joe Sutton, was here to prevent criminal trespassers from crossing Sutton's property.

Law enforcement and other sources say the men are being held in a detention facility in nearby Falfurrias. Officials said yesterday that bond for each man had been set at $200,000. The men were expected to be arraigned in Hebbronville this morning.

Holdridge told WorldNetDaily that the Salvadoran couple – a man and woman described as being in their mid-20s, but whose names have not yet been released – bore some visible physical signs of injury. After Nethercutt and Conner were apprehended, the Salvadoran couple picked the men out of a photo array, said the arresting officer.

Foote said the charges are bogus. He said he and his team "never touched" the couple, "except to pat them down and search them for weapons" after discovering them lying down in brush early Wednesday morning around 1 a.m. He says he has pictures to prove it, although they weren't available at publication time.

After Nethercutt and Conner searched the two Salvadorans, said Foote, they "were taken by van" to the front of Sutton's property, which is guarded by a heavy, steel, sliding gate that remains locked along Hwy. 16.

In the interim, said Foote, the U.S. Border Patrol – which mans an inspection station about seven miles north of Sutton's ranch – was notified to come pick up the Salvadorans. But after waiting around 45 minutes, Sutton grew impatient and ordered his detachment to simply open the front gate and release the Salvadoran couple, said Foote.

The Border Patrol arrived about 10 minutes later, said Foote. Sources told WND the Salvadoran couple eventually turned themselves in to Border Patrol officers, but agency officials would not confirm that.

Border Patrol spokesmen in Hebbronville and Laredo had no comment, except to say the case was being handled by Texas authorities.

It was unclear how the Salvadorans' testimony was obtained; neither Holdridge nor Jim Hogg County Sheriff's Department officials would say. Holdridge did say Wednesday, however, that the Salvadoran couple did not swear out a complaint.

"I filed charges on behalf of the state of Texas," he told WND.

In addition to legal problems, Nethercutt, who is in his mid-30s, and Conner, who was described as being nearly 60, have experienced health problems since being incarcerated. Officials say Nethercutt is suffering complications from pancreatitis, while Conner is suffering from chronic high blood pressure.

Authorities allowed volunteers to bring Conner medicine early yesterday, but refused to allow them to visit Nethercutt. Officials were also unclear as to whether Nethercutt had been taken for treatment to an area hospital or whether he was being treated on-site at a detention center health facility.

Foote says he is confident the men will be exonerated, but believes they will have to endure a lengthy court battle to prove their innocence. He also said he is having difficulty raising bail money and that he asked Sutton to help, but that he refused.

Although the current "mission" on Sutton's ranch is over, Foote pledges that the incident won't permanently damage Ranch Rescue.

"We just have to pick our battles," he said. "Right now, I just want to get these guys out of jail."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Texas
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To: dirtboy
Section 274 felonies under the federal Immigration and Nationality Act, INA 274A(a)(1)(A):

A person (including a group of persons, business, organization, or local government) commits a federal felony when she or he:

* assists an alien s/he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him or her to obtain employment, or

* encourages that alien to remain in the U.S. by referring him or her to an employer or by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or

* knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions.

Penalties upon conviction include criminal fines, imprisonment, and forfeiture of vehicles and real property used to commit the crime.

We should be happy someone is doing the government's job for them. Besides being in our country illegally, the aliens were trespassing on private property which used to be good enough reason for shooting them dead.
41 posted on 03/21/2003 11:36:35 AM PST by lodwick ( Live free or die)
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To: lodwick
Nothing you posted there shows that it is a felony to enter the country illegally of your own accord. Once again, it is not grounds for a citizens arrest under Texas and Arizona state law to observe an illegal entry into the country, as that in and of itself is not a felony. Anyone doing such subjects themselves to prosecution for false arrest and/or assault.

You might not like that, I really don't like that, but that's the law as it currently stands. I talked this over at length with Marine Inspector, who is a freeper and works for the INS.

42 posted on 03/21/2003 11:39:53 AM PST by dirtboy (Render yourself invisible to the media - attend a Rally for America today!)
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To: Black Agnes
Good points.
43 posted on 03/21/2003 11:41:26 AM PST by B4Ranch (Keep America safe! Thank the troops for our freedom.)
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To: dirtboy
Section 1325. Improper entry by alien

(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection;
misrepresentation and concealment of facts
Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States
at any time or place other than as designated by immigration
officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration
officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United
States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the
willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first
commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or
imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent
commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or
imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.
(b) Improper time or place; civil penalties
Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to
enter) the United States at a time or place other than as
designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil
penalty of -
(1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or
attempted entry); or
(2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of
an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under
this subsection.
Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not
in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be
imposed.
(c) Marriage fraud
Any individual who knowingly enters into a marriage for the
purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be
imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or fined not more than
$250,000, or both.
(d) Immigration-related entrepreneurship fraud
Any individual who knowingly establishes a commercial enterprise
for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws
shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, fined in accordance
with title 18, or both.
44 posted on 03/21/2003 11:50:45 AM PST by EBUCK (FIRE!....rounds downrange! http://www.azfire.org)
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To: EBUCK
Didn't get the whole thing....That's title 8 section 1325 of the US Code therefore all violators of this code are in fact Felons and therefore subject to citizen arrest.
45 posted on 03/21/2003 11:52:09 AM PST by EBUCK (FIRE!....rounds downrange! http://www.azfire.org)
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To: EBUCK
Yup. I had read several places that simply being 'illegal' was in and of itself a felony.
46 posted on 03/21/2003 11:53:38 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: EBUCK
That's title 8 section 1325 of the US Code therefore all violators of this code are in fact Felons and therefore subject to citizen arrest.

Wrong. I'll take the word of Marine Inspector on this one, he works for the INS (and is on our side in this matter). Illegal entry is an administrative offense subject to deportation. Attempted illegal re-entry may be classified as a felony, but someone watching illegal entry has no way of determining this, therefore they cannot claim that they were witnessing a felony in progress and make a citizens arrest. Probably the best thing to do is to try and get the border states to revise their statutes to include illegal entry as an offense subject to citizens arrest.

47 posted on 03/21/2003 11:55:15 AM PST by dirtboy (Render yourself invisible to the media - attend a Rally for America today!)
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To: Cultural Jihad
just out of curiosity: what do you gain on a personal level by posting perpetually inflamatory remarks? Are you bored? Are you paid to this? TIA.
48 posted on 03/21/2003 11:57:51 AM PST by Semaphore Heathcliffe
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To: Black Agnes
Entering under the US by means other than "legal" is a fellony. Legal entry requirements....

http://www.usaimmigrationservice.org/v.htm

If a person does it in any other way they instantly become criminals and subject to fine, arrest imprisonment or all of the previous simultaniously. Just like a Cali gun owner :-(
49 posted on 03/21/2003 11:59:20 AM PST by EBUCK (FIRE!....rounds downrange! http://www.azfire.org)
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To: Tancredo Fan
one really has to watch whom one votes for

I don't understand your comment.

What is your point?

50 posted on 03/21/2003 11:59:58 AM PST by george wythe
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To: EBUCK; Marine Inspector
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1325.notes.html

AMENDMENTS 1996 - Subsecs. (b) to (d). Pub. L. 104-208 added subsec. (b) and redesignated former subsecs. (b) and (c) as (c) and (d), respectively. 1991 - Subsec. (a). Pub. L. 102-232 substituted ''fined under title 18'' for ''fined not more than $2,000 (or, if greater, the amount provided under title 18)''. 1990 - Subsec. (a). Pub. L. 101-649, Sec. 543(b)(2), inserted ''or attempts to enter'' after ''(1) enters'' and ''attempts to enter or'' after ''or (3)'', and substituted ''shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined not more than $2,000 (or, if greater, the amount provided under title 18) or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years'' for ''shall, for the first commission of any such offenses, be guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction thereof be punished by imprisonment for not more than six months, or by a fine of not more than $500, or by both, and for a subsequent commission of any such offenses shall be guilty of a felony and upon conviction thereof shall be punished by imprisonment for not more than two years, or by a fine of not more than $1,000''. Subsec. (c). Pub. L. 101-649, Sec. 121(b)(3), added subsec. (c). 1986 - Pub. L. 99-639 designated existing provisions as subsec. (a) and added subsec. (b).

It is a SUBSEQUENT conviction of the offense that is a felony - not the initial offense. And someone patrolling the border has no way of knowing if an illegal they are confronting has previously been convicted - therefore, they cannot make a determination of a felony being committed in their presence by the act of illegal entry into the country. Marine Inspector and I went over this in detail a couple of months ago.

51 posted on 03/21/2003 12:02:04 PM PST by dirtboy (Render yourself invisible to the media - attend a Rally for America today!)
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To: dirtboy
I've been busy for quite some time, too busy to pay attention to the border but I thought that any violation of federal law was a felony. And even if they are treating it as administrative it is still a felony right?
52 posted on 03/21/2003 12:02:39 PM PST by EBUCK (FIRE!....rounds downrange! http://www.azfire.org)
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To: EBUCK
Entering under the US by means other than "legal" is a fellony. Legal entry requirements....

No, it is not automatically a felony, nor does someone witnessing illegal entry have the ability to reasonably determine on the spot that a felony is in progress. Check my post #51.

53 posted on 03/21/2003 12:03:23 PM PST by dirtboy (Render yourself invisible to the media - attend a Rally for America today!)
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To: EBUCK
I've been busy for quite some time, too busy to pay attention to the border but I thought that any violation of federal law was a felony. And even if they are treating it as administrative it is still a felony right?

I think you're painting with waay too broad a brush here.

54 posted on 03/21/2003 12:04:02 PM PST by dirtboy (Render yourself invisible to the media - attend a Rally for America today!)
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To: Technoman
Does the President have a problem with protecting the borders?

Yep as O'Reilly says its all about letting drugs into this country and Bill is not happy about this!
55 posted on 03/21/2003 12:04:56 PM PST by TLBSHOW (The gift is to see the truth......)
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To: dirtboy
Could be, like I said this was what I believed until you showed up pissing in my camp fire.
56 posted on 03/21/2003 12:05:38 PM PST by EBUCK (FIRE!....rounds downrange! http://www.azfire.org)
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To: dirtboy
Check this language from post #51:

and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years'' for ''shall, for the first commission of any such offenses, be guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction thereof be punished by imprisonment for not more than six months, or by a fine of not more than $500, or by both

First offense is a misdemeanor.

57 posted on 03/21/2003 12:06:45 PM PST by dirtboy (Render yourself invisible to the media - attend a Rally for America today!)
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To: EBUCK
Could be, like I said this was what I believed until you showed up pissing in my camp fire.

I have that bad habit sometimes. Google wrecks a lot of otherwise wonderful theories...

58 posted on 03/21/2003 12:08:42 PM PST by dirtboy (Render yourself invisible to the media - attend a Rally for America today!)
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To: dirtboy
Well even some misdemeanor offences are subject to arrest and therefore citizen arrest. Not to mention the fact that tresspassing is stacked on top of that.
59 posted on 03/21/2003 12:10:44 PM PST by EBUCK (FIRE!....rounds downrange! http://www.azfire.org)
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To: dirtboy
dirtboy says:   "...a citizens arrest, which under Texas law (from what I've read) can only be done upon witnessing a felony."

Not exactly. It is true that in some jurisdictions that a citizen's arrest can only be effected for an offense actually observed by the arresting party. But virtually all states of the nation allow for a citizen's arrest for both misdemeanor and felony offenses. I don't have a cite to the actual Texas statute on citizen's arrest, but here is what the website for a Houston law firm says about the legitimacy of citizen's arrest.

Can someone other than a Police Officer arrest me?
Any person, such as a private security guard, can make a citizen's arrest if they see a misdemeanor being attempted or committed (A misdemeanor is a criminal offense usually punishable with a fine or short jail term). They also can make a legal arrest for a felony if it actually was committed and they have good reason to believe that you did it. They must take you to a police officer or judge who is required by law to take you into custody.
Maybe some other legal beagle can locate the precise Texas State statute, but I think you'll find that citizen's arrest, for both felony and misdemeanor offenses, is perfectly legal and proper under Texas law.

Moreover, when a citizen's arrest is made, you are allowed to use what ever force is reasonably necessary to effect that arrest. Whether physical force was used in the present case and whether it was "reasonably necessary" force, remains to be seen.

--Boot Hill

60 posted on 03/21/2003 12:11:02 PM PST by Boot Hill
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