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1 posted on 03/20/2003 10:18:51 PM PST by FreeReporting
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The result is the defamation of a people

Maybe it's just late but (even) I find it a little hard to follow the convoluted reasoning by which the author reaches her conclusions.

Just as we don't have a problem distinguishing between the "regime" in Iraq and the Iraqi people and preferred folks draw some distinction between the US Government (under the Evil Clintonistas) and the American People, I fail to see how it is the State of Israel is somehow exempt from standing on its own merits and gets to play the victim of anti-Semitism without FIRST justifying how its actions are singularly "Jewish" in nature.

Personally, I think the State of Israel accomplishes this defamation more often than not when defending itself -- and its more heinous actions -- as a "Jewish" state.

It's much like our nation's claiming the special protections of the Almighty and calling itself "Christian" even as abortion remains the most common surgical procedure in the land and we yet export our Culture of Death and "saving graces of Western materialism" abroad and seek to "keep up with the Joneses" where the manufacture, sales and intentional destruction of human life for research purposes is concerned.

Given Father Abraham's petitioning the Almighty on behalf of the 50, the 30, the perhaps only 10 good people of Sodom -- and receiving the Almighty's assurance that He would not destroy Sodom if it meant killing even 10 good men in the process -- I don't always understand the "Jewish" nature of some of the State of Israel's actions. In fact, given the profound respect (and love) I have for the Jews as chosen by God to bring forth and recognize the Messiah, I find repugnant the notion that ALL of the State of Israel's actions always somehow equate to "Jewish".

Beginning with the terrorism used to lever the State into being in the first place. It was a bad precedent to set for folks at the I.R.A. and elsewhere. Few realize they don't get to play either the Jewish card or the Holocaust card and tend to get carried away with the efficacy of terrorism.

As a Catholic familiar with the "more Catholic than the Pope concept" ... sometimes I wonder that the State of Israel doesn't consider itself somehow "more Jewish than the Practicing Jews".

How else to explain the Knesset's holding forth on whether or not Orthodox Judaism is essentially equal to Reformed or Conservative Judaism? With events like that, I sometimes wonder that the State of Israel doesn't consider itself a Magisterium of sorts.

It's all very confusing ... particularly given the fact I don't believe any Jew could possibly defend the utterly immoral AND yet be a practicing Jew anymore than I believe there's such a thing as a pro-abort Catholic.

2 posted on 03/20/2003 10:55:55 PM PST by Askel5
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Saudi media and religious sermons incite the murder of Jews.

Shocking that our "good friends" the Saudis would encourage such things.

3 posted on 03/20/2003 11:12:20 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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I realize that what I'm about to say doesn't related directly to the article that you posted, but it struck me today that the best place for a Palestinian homeland might be the south of France.

In terms of the article, I think that the left treats everyone the way that the author describes them treating the Jews. No matter who you are, if they don't see you as one of them, they try to demonize you in everyone else's eyes so that any act of self-defense is seen as an act of aggression.

I also find the situation interesting in light of the left's support for hate crimes laws. They don't think anyone, Jewish or otherwise, should have to live in fear because of a racial or religious difference. If a Jewish person moved into an entirely Christian neighborhood and were bothered by the neighbors, they would want the neighbors punished. However, they have no sympathy for Israel even though the nation of Israel is basically dealing with a bunch of countries that just can't stand the fact that a Jewish nation exists in the "neighborhood."

It Didn't Start Last Night
Bill

8 posted on 03/21/2003 12:05:50 AM PST by WFTR
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Conference Schedule
29 posted on 03/21/2003 6:09:36 AM PST by Stultis
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Jewish/Jew/Israel: read Christian
31 posted on 03/21/2003 7:57:17 AM PST by maestro
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I've been hearing this "it's all about the joos" stuff a lot recently, even from mu own family. I finally figured it out -- people do not hate the United States because we protect Israel -- it's the other way round.

They hate Israel because Israel is a friend of the United States, and becuse it is a democracy.

65 posted on 03/21/2003 12:39:36 PM PST by js1138
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prejudices rooted in both mediaeval Christian and Nazi demonology

Anti-semitism is evil and a sin. But why is it permissible to slander Christianity and link it to Naziism? why is outright hatred of and libeling of Christianity permissible?

I want a stop to antisemitism - - AND to the bashing of Christianity.

All those crosses at Normandy testify to the blood of Christian soldiers shed in the fight against Naziis. So STOP DEFAMING CHRISTIANITY AS SOME KIND OF HANDMAID TO NAZIISM

68 posted on 03/21/2003 1:06:13 PM PST by churchillbuff
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