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Saddam is dead or severely wounded (FOX NEWS)
FOX NEWS TV | 3.21.03

Posted on 03/20/2003 8:56:48 PM PST by Enemy Of The State

FOX NEWS has reported that Saddam is either dead or severely wounded as he was believed to be in the compound that was recently struch by B-117 bombers


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: b52; bomb; compound; deadmantalking; decapitation; lindavesterlooksgood; unclesaddam
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To: Quix
You're welcome; no problem. :-)

Oh, I see ... a T.V. show. I wasn't aware of that program and so, I hadn't a glimmer ... LOL

I watched " THE CHILDREN OF DUNE " ( I like SciFi too ), but taped the last episode. Your VCR is your friend. :-)

Maybe they'll repeat your show. I'm sorry you missed it.

301 posted on 03/20/2003 11:25:44 PM PST by nopardons
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To: JustPiper
Tenet did good? I am stunned.

GOD ANSWERS PRAYERS!

Dearest Heavenly Father, we recommend also to Your care those who are charged with protecting us through these dangerous shoals. Please bless and protect them and give them unusual discernment to do their tasks according to Thy will, and refresh them for their tasks. In Jesus' name, we pray for.

General Tommy Franks
Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld
Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice
Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge
Attorney General John Ashcroft
F.B.I. Director Robert Mueller
C.I.A. Director George Tenet

334 posted on 03/19/2003 11:32 AM PST by patriciaruth

302 posted on 03/20/2003 11:27:45 PM PST by patriciaruth
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To: nopardons
Thanks.

The VCR is tied into my parent's satellite tuner. They typically watch planet's funniest animals or the history channel.

It's not a biggy and will probably be around another time.

Certainly not something to lose sleep over.

But I appreciate your kind words.

Wellllllllll have had shower.

and been silly.

and I should get some sleep so I can watch some more 'fun' tomorrow!

And finish the roll out shelves at least a bit more tomorrow.

And do errands.

All after praying for troops and a lot more!

BLESSINGS,
303 posted on 03/20/2003 11:28:26 PM PST by Quix (MARCH BIBLE CODES DIGEST LATEST RESEARCH COMPARES WAR AND PEACE VS BIBLE W SURPRISES 4 BOTH SIDES)
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To: Quix
Right! Keep the prayers going!!
304 posted on 03/20/2003 11:31:01 PM PST by patriciaruth
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To: Quix
Peggy Noonan was the Reagan speechwriter
305 posted on 03/20/2003 11:31:07 PM PST by texxie (Don't Mess With Texas!!!)
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To: texxie
RIGHT!

I'D LOVE FOR HER TO GRAB THOSE TURKEYS BY THE COLLAR AND ASK SOME POINTED QUESTIONS AFTER THEIR FACES TURNED WHITE HEARING SUCH INFORMATION.

That would be TV worth taping.

306 posted on 03/20/2003 11:35:29 PM PST by Quix (MARCH BIBLE CODES DIGEST LATEST RESEARCH COMPARES WAR AND PEACE VS BIBLE W SURPRISES 4 BOTH SIDES)
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To: patriciaruth
AMEN AND FOR YOU AND YOUR CLOSE RELATIONSHIPS.
307 posted on 03/20/2003 11:36:12 PM PST by Quix (MARCH BIBLE CODES DIGEST LATEST RESEARCH COMPARES WAR AND PEACE VS BIBLE W SURPRISES 4 BOTH SIDES)
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To: Quix
Oh dear, you DO have a problem, then. Sorry ! I'm so used to setting the VCR and not worrying about missing something ( yes, I can actually set the VCR and know how to work the clock too,. LOL ), that I didn't even think about someone having a dish and not cable. :-(

The SciFi channel repreats things a LOT ! Hopefully, you'll be able to catch it next time out.

Yes, prayers for our troops ! I think that all of us do that, as well as remembering our president in our prayers. :-) Nighty, night.

308 posted on 03/20/2003 11:39:04 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Quix
lol that would be great Quix have a good one
309 posted on 03/20/2003 11:47:51 PM PST by texxie (Don't Mess With Texas!!!)
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To: Quix
The reported wounding and call for help likely was not known immediately, so we could not send another wave of attacks.
310 posted on 03/21/2003 12:25:18 AM PST by rwfromkansas (Soli Deo Gloria)
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To: Centurion2000
Bush and crew pull a 4 move checkmate on the nation of Iraq ....

How embarrassing! Guess he won't be joining the "Deposed but Still Fearsome Dictators Country Club" anytime soon. LOL

311 posted on 03/21/2003 12:43:40 AM PST by ToTheStars
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To: Bogey78O
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom

That movie has a whole lot of vague references to the centuries old Knights Templar and Hashashin conflict. IE - Jew/Christian Holy Warriors struggling with Islamic Holy Warriors over some mystical artifact (the ark of the covenant) that has very strong magical powers. In that movie however the bad guys were Hitlers nazis.

312 posted on 03/21/2003 12:50:11 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: nmh
On FOX they were reporting that the inner, inner circle of saddam is discussing with D.C. on how to surrender.
The French now have a role.

-Eric

313 posted on 03/21/2003 3:14:09 AM PST by E Rocc (A liquid soap and flea powder mixture: like pepper spray to lefties.)
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To: rwfromkansas
Logical to me.

Still given the stakes, I think I'd have wanted to pulverize the whole area to powder and keep at it until powder conditions were obviously reached.

more or less.

IMH & IGNORANT O
314 posted on 03/21/2003 3:20:36 AM PST by Quix (MARCH BIBLE CODES DIGEST LATEST RESEARCH COMPARES WAR AND PEACE VS BIBLE W SURPRISES 4 BOTH SIDES)
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To: SamAdams76
I had my doubts earlier but I am becoming increasingly convinced that Saddam is either dead or severely injured.

Indulge me a moment.

I doubt Allied forces will ever definitively know if Saddam is dead. We have no DNA of his to test, unless we round up relatives and start testing them.

Concerning the doubles of Saddam, I would question if doubles were meant to be used on TV for speeches, etc. Would they not best be used at a distance or in a fleeting glance, as a car drives by a certain point. Anyone at that point would get not much of a glance, but quick enough to consider that the person in the car might indeed be Sadaam. One would think, unless the double was indeed trained to speech as Saddam that indeed, the person on the TV was not the "real" Saddam (I don't think a double would be used to read poerty).

I personally lean torward the theory that it was Saddam on TV, just taped earlier in the day, as he had done that in the past.

With that said, it is still possible that Saddam is injured or dead (i.e. not in authority). I do not put as much stock as perhaps I should in Republican Guard units surrendering as a reliable sign that Saddam is not in authority. They are too distant from Saddam per se to control without the help of the Military Intelligence Service (al-Istikhbarat al-'Askariya). This organization has informants which keep track of loyalty within military units. I remember reading yesterday some decree concerning Iraqi forces that deserters wouild be shot. I'll have to find the article, but I wonder if that message came from the Istikhbarat.

What would be vital to know is if the Special Republican Guard units are starting to desert or surender. Certainly a more elite unit, it took over the original mission of the Republican Guard and is the garrison for Baghdad. Most of the solider in the SRG are from Tikrit and the surrounding towns, so they are more trusted by Saddam. I would also want to know if the Palace Guard units are deserting or surrendering.

If Saddam is unable to give orders, one will also expect his faithful in the Bayjat clan to flee to Tikrit, one his Saddam's strongholds. We shall see.

If indeed others were injured or killed, including Abid Hamad Hamud, Saddam's personal secretary (and leader of "The Companions"), there is truly a leadership vacum. Senior Iraqi military commanders would now be fighting mainly on intent - I don't think there was much of that taught in Iraq, as Sadam wanted (and needed) to control all aspects of the military (to ensure no coups could be successfully undertaken).

Of course, Saddam could be alive and laying some sort of ambush, but I wonder if he is that creative a thinker under high stress situations. Maybe - he knew the allies were coming in, they would not be stopped and perhaps has consider the persistent reports on bin Laden being dead/alive/whatever. Perhaps he wants to kill as many Allies and his people as possible, in a smaller area that a desert battlefield and maintaining a low profile is one way that he believes that can be done.

315 posted on 03/21/2003 3:28:15 AM PST by Fury
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To: Quix
i HAVE A QUESTION.

wHY DIDN'T WE HIT THE SITE AGAIN

IMMEDIATELY?

[From the Fox article...] The officials said the attack began with about three dozen naval cruise missiles that leveled the aboveground structures. Air Force F-117A Nighthawk stealth fighters then dropped a new 2,000-pound "bunker buster" bomb, called the EGBU-27.

316 posted on 03/21/2003 3:37:49 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
So, the first 2,000 pounder would make it through 20 feet of concrete and the 2nd one another 20 feet?

So a bunker of X floors deep into the earth would be crushed down how many floors?/feet?

Thanks much.
317 posted on 03/21/2003 3:44:36 AM PST by Quix (MARCH BIBLE CODES DIGEST LATEST RESEARCH COMPARES WAR AND PEACE VS BIBLE W SURPRISES 4 BOTH SIDES)
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To: Azzurri
In the Field Artillery, there is nothing quite so grand as a "first round hit"!
318 posted on 03/21/2003 3:54:22 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: ezoeni
Er, I don't think anybody was expecting the USA to lose this war.
319 posted on 03/21/2003 4:21:09 AM PST by Jack Rudd (Chess, like love, like music, has the power to make men happy.)
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To: E Rocc
On FOX they were reporting that the inner, inner circle of saddam is discussing with D.C. on how to surrender.
The French now have a role.

Their only role will be teaching "Surrender 101" to the Iraqis.

The French are the world's leading experts on this subject.

320 posted on 03/21/2003 4:34:34 AM PST by Ole Okie
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