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To: Dataman
Interesting moral statement.

It isn't a statement about morals.

1)What are the rights of others?

Life, liberty , property, the pursuit of happiness among them if you need a list. Anything that does not violate others rights.

2)How does one determine if the rights of others have been violated?

Life, liberty , property, the pursuit of happiness among them if you need a list.

3)Is paying for the medical expenses of another person's promiscutity a violation of my rights?

Yes. Paying for anyone's expenses against your will is theft. It is not the promiscutity that violates your rights, it's the theft of your money.

4)What is the basis for any human rights at all?

They are granted by the creator. Some can be found in the ten commandments if you look.

Without answers to at least 3 of the 4 questions, your statement is meaningless.

Curious standard. And it might be meaningless to you, which of course is no standard of meaning. I'm also curious which one you thoght couldn't be answered.

380 posted on 03/19/2003 1:00:36 PM PST by Protagoras
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To: Protagoras
ME: What are the rights of others?

YOU: Life, liberty , property, the pursuit of happiness among them if you need a list. Anything that does not violate others rights.

That all sounds very nice but what if my pursuit of happiness interferes with your pursuit of happiness?

Me: How does one determine if the rights of others have been violated?

You: Life, liberty , property, the pursuit of happiness among them if you need a list.

You failed to answer the question. My experience with libertarian apologists is that they appoint themselves judges as to whether a person's rights have been violated. Surely it is unjust to let the violator determine if he has violated rights.

You: Yes. Paying for anyone's expenses against your will is theft. It is not the promiscutity that violates your rights, it's the theft of your money.

If people want to communicate the plague to each other through sexual misconduct, that's ok as long as it doesn't violate someone's rights? Willful transmission of a disease IS a violation of someone's rights!

Me: What is the basis for any human rights at all?

You: They are granted by the creator. Some can be found in the ten commandments if you look. They are granted by the creator. Some can be found in the ten commandments if you look.

Thou shalt not kill: Spreading AIDS is killing.
I'm glad you acknowledged a Creator. The Creator forbids homosexual sex. So.. You acknowledge the Creator, you acknowledge the Decalogue as a source of human rights, but you discount the Creator's prohibition of homosexual sex? On what logical basis?

YOU: And it might be meaningless to you, which of course is no standard of meaning. I'm also curious which one you thoght couldn't be answered.

A statement with ambiguous terms is subject to the fallacy of equivocation. There was no claim that you couldn't answer one of the questions, only that 3 of them needed to be answered.

418 posted on 03/19/2003 1:37:54 PM PST by Dataman
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