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Libertarians Join Liberals in Challenging Sodomy Law
NYTimes ^ | March 19, 2003 | LINDA GREENHOUSE

Posted on 03/19/2003 12:48:02 AM PST by RJCogburn

The constitutional challenge to the Texas "homosexual conduct" law that the Supreme Court will take up next week has galvanized not only traditional gay rights and civil rights organizations, but also libertarian groups that see the case as a chance to deliver their own message to the justices.

The message is one of freedom from government control over private choices, economic as well as sexual. "Libertarians argue that the government has no business in the bedroom or in the boardroom," Roger Pilon, vice president for legal affairs at the Cato Institute, said today, describing the motivation for the institute, a leading libertarian research organization here, to file a brief on behalf of two gay men who are challenging the Texas law.

Dana Berliner, a lawyer for the Institute for Justice, another prominent libertarian group here that also filed a brief, said, "Most people may see this as a case purely about homosexuality, but we don't look at it that way at all." The Institute for Justice usually litigates against government regulation of small business and in favor of "school choice" tuition voucher programs for nonpublic schools.

"If the government can regulate private sexual behavior, it's hard to imagine what the government couldn't regulate," Ms. Berliner said. "That's almost so basic that it's easy to miss the forest for the trees."

The Texas case is a challenge to a law that makes it a crime for people of the same sex to engage in "deviate sexual intercourse," defined as oral or anal sex. In accepting the case, the justices agreed to consider whether to overturn a 1986 precedent, Bowers v. Hardwick, which upheld a Georgia sodomy law that at least on its face, if not in application, also applied to heterosexuals.

While the Texas case has received enormous attention from gay news media organizations and other groups that view the 1986 decision as particularly notorious, it has been largely overshadowed in a busy Supreme Court term by the challenge to the University of Michigan's affirmative action program. The justices accepted both cases on the same day last December, and briefing has proceeded along identical schedules. The Texas case will be argued March 26 and the Michigan case six days later, on April 1.

Although libertarian-sounding arguments were presented to the court as part of the overall debate over the right to privacy in the Bowers v. Hardwick case, they were not the solitary focus of any of the presentations then. The Institute for Justice had not yet been established, and the Cato Institute, which dates to 1977, had not begun to file legal briefs. Whether the arguments will attract a conservative libertarian-leaning justice like Clarence Thomas, who was not on the court in 1986, remains to be seen.

More traditional conservative groups have entered the case on the state's side, among them the American Center for Law and Justice, a group affiliated with the Rev. Pat Robertson that is a frequent participant in Supreme Court cases.

The split among conservatives demonstrates "a diversity of opinion among our side," Jay Alan Sekulow, the center's chief counsel, said today. He said the decision to come in on the state's side presented a "tough case, one that we approached with reluctance." He said he decided to enter the case after concluding that acceptance of the gay rights arguments by the court might provide a constitutional foundation for same-sex marriage.

The marriage issue also brought other conservative groups into the case on the state's side. "The Texas statute is a reasonable means of promoting and protecting marriage — the union of a man and a woman," the Family Research Council and Focus on the Family told the court in a joint brief.

While the Texas case underscores the split between social and libertarian conservatives, it is evident at the same time that the alliance between the libertarians and the traditional civil rights organizations is unlikely to extend further. The two are on opposite sides in the University of Michigan case, with both the Cato Institute and the Institute for Justice opposing affirmative action while nearly every traditional civil rights organization has filed a brief on Michigan's side. The Bush administration, which filed a brief opposing the Michigan program, did not take a stand in the Texas case.

In 1986, when the court decided Bowers v. Hardwick, half the states had criminal sodomy laws on their books. Now just 13 do. Texas is one of four, along with Kansas, Oklahoma, and Missouri, with laws that apply only to sexual activity between people of the same sex. The sodomy laws of the other nine states — Alabama, Florida, Idaho, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Utah and Virginia — do not make that distinction. The Georgia law that the Supreme Court upheld was later invalidated by the Georgia Supreme Court.

The Texas law is being challenged by John G. Lawrence and Tyron Garner, who were found having sex in Mr. Lawrence's Houston apartment by police officers who entered through an unlocked door after receiving a report from a neighbor that there was a man with a gun in the apartment. The neighbor was later convicted of filing a false report. The two men were held in jail overnight, prosecuted and fined $200 each. Represented by the Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund, they challenged the constitutionality of the law and lost in a middle-level state appeals court. The Texas Supreme Court refused to hear the case.

The United States Supreme Court's decision to take the case has been interpreted on both sides as an indication that the court is likely to rule against the state. Both Texas and the organizations that have filed briefs on its side devote considerable energy in the briefs to trying to convince the justices that granting the case was a mistake, a choice of tactics that is usually an indication of concern that a decision that does reach the merits will be unfavorable.

If the justices do strike down the Texas law, the implications of the decision will depend on which route the court selects from among several that are available. The court could find that by singling out same-sex behavior Texas has violated the constitutional guarantee of equal protection. Because the Bowers v. Hardwick decision did not address equal protection, instead rejecting an argument based on the right to privacy, such a decision would not necessarily require the court to overrule the 1986 precedent.

The Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund's brief for the two men urges the court to go further and rule that any law making private consensual sexual behavior a crime infringes the liberty protected by the Constitution's due process guarantee. Several arguments in its brief appear tailored to Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, who voted with the majority in Bowers v. Hardwick but is now assumed, on the basis of her later support for abortion rights and her votes in other due process cases, to be at least open to persuasion.

For example, the brief includes a quotation from Jane Dee Hull, then the Republican governor of Arizona, where Justice O'Connor once served in the Legislature, on signing a bill repealing the state's sodomy law in 2001. "At the end of the day, I returned to one of my most basic beliefs about government: It does not belong in our private lives," Governor Hull said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: 3branchesofgovt; homosexualagenda; ifitfeelsgooddoit; itsjustsex; legislatefromcourts; libertariansliberals; nonewtaletotell; peckingparty; sodomylaws; usualsuspects
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To: HumanaeVitae
If it is established that you've contracted the ebola virus, is it prudent to let you travel about the country?

Of course not. In that case I would be committing assault on anyone I came in proximity to. That doesn't negate my ownership of my body any more than laws prohibiting me from punching somebody in the face. It's also entirely irrelevant to the question of organ sales, which do not involve harm to nonconsenting individuals.

381 posted on 03/19/2003 1:01:38 PM PST by ThinkDifferent (tick...tick...tick...)
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To: freeeee
I didn't ask how you can tell evil from good. I asked why some people are good and others are not.
382 posted on 03/19/2003 1:04:53 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: HumanaeVitae
I can tell you that a society with no self-policing = tyranny

What do you mean by "self-policing" in this context?

383 posted on 03/19/2003 1:05:26 PM PST by ThinkDifferent (tick...tick...tick...)
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To: Protagoras
How do you make absolute moral judgements? By what criteria? What higher law beyond the individual do you adhere to?
384 posted on 03/19/2003 1:07:47 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: Zack Nguyen
Very well then - by holding to a libertarian philosophy, these people find it difficult or impossible to make absolute moral judgements.

That statement is demonstrably untrue.

Murder, rape, robbery, burglary, fraud are ALL morally wrong. Moreover, they violate some else's rights and are thus the fit subject of law. BTW, I consider abortion murder.

I personally find homosexual relations immoral. It's bad for the people who engage in it, in my opinion. But no one's rights are being violated. Thus it's NOT a fit subject of law.

There's no problem making absolute moral judgements holding to a libertarian philosophy.

385 posted on 03/19/2003 1:08:49 PM PST by jimt
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To: Protagoras
I can't seem to find where Christ instructed us to enforce his will by violence or threat thereof. In fact, in one instance, he told us to bug off and he would handle it.

That is incorrect. Consider Romans 13: 1-7. Government is given "the sword" that is an offensive instrument of force and violence, to coerce certain types of behavior in pursuance of justice and protection of the weak.

386 posted on 03/19/2003 1:11:25 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: jimt
There's no problem making absolute moral judgements holding to a libertarian philosophy.

I'm afraid there is. Libertarians do not call upon anything higher than the individual in their moral reasoning. That isn't good enough. Our laws much reference something higher than ourselves to be consistent. Otherwise what I believe is no better than what you believe. In addition, libertarians hold ot a Rights of Man argument that, in their reasoning, has nothing to back it up.

387 posted on 03/19/2003 1:14:30 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: Zack Nguyen
Here was your question:

Why do you believe that some people are good and others bad

I believe that some are good and some are bad because I observe, through their actions, good and bad people. Hence they both exist. That's why I believe some are good and some are bad. And that was the question.

I asked why some people are good and others are not.

That's a new question. In my opinion, the combined effects of genetics and environment/upbringing unique to each individual cause a development of a set of morals or lack thereof.

388 posted on 03/19/2003 1:14:48 PM PST by freeeee
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To: Roscoe
Which has nothing to do with judicially legislating sodomy "rights".

Wow, the convolution in that thinking is breathtaking !

Declaring a law null and void is not "legislating".

People committing sodomy are not violating anybody's rights, so you have no grounds for legally restricting them.

...the Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness...

389 posted on 03/19/2003 1:15:38 PM PST by jimt
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To: Zack Nguyen
What higher law beyond the individual do you adhere to?

God, you?

390 posted on 03/19/2003 1:16:42 PM PST by Protagoras
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To: jimt
Declaring a law null and void is not "legislating".

That's how judicial legislation works. Read a book.

391 posted on 03/19/2003 1:17:08 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: freeeee
Really? So evil is genetic/envirnmental/social? Why then do you call it "evil", since nothing in that description gives ultimate responsiblity to the individual?
392 posted on 03/19/2003 1:17:08 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: Protagoras
I do as well. That is why I cannot hold to the specious libertarian argument that government is not fit to coerce certain types of behavior from its citizens.
393 posted on 03/19/2003 1:18:40 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: steve-b
Ok, I see where you were going.
394 posted on 03/19/2003 1:18:42 PM PST by Protagoras
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To: jimt
Criminal sodomy laws in effect in 1791: Connecticut: 1 Public Statute Laws of the State of Connecticut, 1808, Title LXVI, ch. 1, 2 (rev. 1672). Delaware: 1 Laws of the State of Delaware, 1797, ch. 22, 5 (passed 1719). Georgia had no criminal sodomy statute until 1816, but sodomy was a crime at common law, and the General Assembly adopted the common law of England as the law of Georgia in 1784. The First Laws of the State of Georgia, pt. 1, p. 290 (1981). Maryland had no criminal sodomy statute in 1791. Maryland's Declaration of Rights, passed in 1776, however, stated that "the inhabitants of Maryland are entitled to the common law of England," and sodomy was a crime at common law. 4 W. Swindler, Sources and Documents of United States Constitutions 372 (1975). Massachusetts: Acts and Laws passed by the General Court of Massachusetts, ch. 14, Act of Mar. 3, 1785. New Hampshire passed its first sodomy statute in 1718. Acts and Laws of New Hampshire 1680-1726, p. 141 (1978). Sodomy was a crime at common law in New Jersey at the time of the ratification of the Bill of Rights. The State enacted its first criminal sodomy law five years later. Acts of the Twentieth General Assembly, Mar. 18, 1796, ch. DC, 7. New York: Laws of New York, ch. 21 (passed 1787). [478 U.S. 186, 193] At the time of ratification of the Bill of Rights, North Carolina had adopted the English statute of Henry VIII outlawing sodomy. See Collection of the Statutes of the Parliament of England in Force in the State of North-Carolina, ch. 17, p. 314 (Martin ed. 1792). Pennsylvania: Laws of the Fourteenth General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, ch. CLIV, 2 (passed 1790). Rhode Island passed its first sodomy law in 1662. The Earliest Acts and Laws of the Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations 1647-1719, p. 142 (1977). South Carolina: Public Laws of the State of South Carolina, p. 49 (1790). At the time of the ratification of the Bill of Rights, Virginia had no specific statute outlawing sodomy, but had adopted the English common law. 9 Hening's Laws of Virginia, ch. 5, 6, p. 127 (1821) (passed 1776).
395 posted on 03/19/2003 1:18:51 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: Zack Nguyen
Romans 13: 1-7. Government is given "the sword" that is an offensive instrument of force and violence

Jesus gave Romans the sword?

396 posted on 03/19/2003 1:18:55 PM PST by freeeee
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To: jimt
People committing sodomy are not violating anybody's rights, so you have no grounds for legally restricting them.

They are most certainly violating my rights, because private sin is publicly championed. Homosexuals bring their attitudes to the public square, not to mention my pocket book, and the coarsening of our culture effects the life of myself and my family.

397 posted on 03/19/2003 1:21:00 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: freeeee
Jesus gave government the sword.
398 posted on 03/19/2003 1:21:25 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: Zack Nguyen
That isn't good enough.

All you're saying is that if I don't agree with your religious views, I can't make moral judgements, because morals MUST come from YOUR God.

Nice try. I don't buy it. And I'm not convinced your pipeline to God is any better than mine. Care to show me why yours is better ?

Morals can also be established by other means - harm to one's self, or another, for instance. This doesn't require ANY religious belief - just a little thinking.

399 posted on 03/19/2003 1:21:42 PM PST by jimt
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To: Roscoe
Criminal sodomy laws in effect in 1791:...

Slavery laws in effect in 1791...

So what?

400 posted on 03/19/2003 1:24:07 PM PST by jimt
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