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Libertarians Join Liberals in Challenging Sodomy Law
NYTimes ^ | March 19, 2003 | LINDA GREENHOUSE

Posted on 03/19/2003 12:48:02 AM PST by RJCogburn

The constitutional challenge to the Texas "homosexual conduct" law that the Supreme Court will take up next week has galvanized not only traditional gay rights and civil rights organizations, but also libertarian groups that see the case as a chance to deliver their own message to the justices.

The message is one of freedom from government control over private choices, economic as well as sexual. "Libertarians argue that the government has no business in the bedroom or in the boardroom," Roger Pilon, vice president for legal affairs at the Cato Institute, said today, describing the motivation for the institute, a leading libertarian research organization here, to file a brief on behalf of two gay men who are challenging the Texas law.

Dana Berliner, a lawyer for the Institute for Justice, another prominent libertarian group here that also filed a brief, said, "Most people may see this as a case purely about homosexuality, but we don't look at it that way at all." The Institute for Justice usually litigates against government regulation of small business and in favor of "school choice" tuition voucher programs for nonpublic schools.

"If the government can regulate private sexual behavior, it's hard to imagine what the government couldn't regulate," Ms. Berliner said. "That's almost so basic that it's easy to miss the forest for the trees."

The Texas case is a challenge to a law that makes it a crime for people of the same sex to engage in "deviate sexual intercourse," defined as oral or anal sex. In accepting the case, the justices agreed to consider whether to overturn a 1986 precedent, Bowers v. Hardwick, which upheld a Georgia sodomy law that at least on its face, if not in application, also applied to heterosexuals.

While the Texas case has received enormous attention from gay news media organizations and other groups that view the 1986 decision as particularly notorious, it has been largely overshadowed in a busy Supreme Court term by the challenge to the University of Michigan's affirmative action program. The justices accepted both cases on the same day last December, and briefing has proceeded along identical schedules. The Texas case will be argued March 26 and the Michigan case six days later, on April 1.

Although libertarian-sounding arguments were presented to the court as part of the overall debate over the right to privacy in the Bowers v. Hardwick case, they were not the solitary focus of any of the presentations then. The Institute for Justice had not yet been established, and the Cato Institute, which dates to 1977, had not begun to file legal briefs. Whether the arguments will attract a conservative libertarian-leaning justice like Clarence Thomas, who was not on the court in 1986, remains to be seen.

More traditional conservative groups have entered the case on the state's side, among them the American Center for Law and Justice, a group affiliated with the Rev. Pat Robertson that is a frequent participant in Supreme Court cases.

The split among conservatives demonstrates "a diversity of opinion among our side," Jay Alan Sekulow, the center's chief counsel, said today. He said the decision to come in on the state's side presented a "tough case, one that we approached with reluctance." He said he decided to enter the case after concluding that acceptance of the gay rights arguments by the court might provide a constitutional foundation for same-sex marriage.

The marriage issue also brought other conservative groups into the case on the state's side. "The Texas statute is a reasonable means of promoting and protecting marriage — the union of a man and a woman," the Family Research Council and Focus on the Family told the court in a joint brief.

While the Texas case underscores the split between social and libertarian conservatives, it is evident at the same time that the alliance between the libertarians and the traditional civil rights organizations is unlikely to extend further. The two are on opposite sides in the University of Michigan case, with both the Cato Institute and the Institute for Justice opposing affirmative action while nearly every traditional civil rights organization has filed a brief on Michigan's side. The Bush administration, which filed a brief opposing the Michigan program, did not take a stand in the Texas case.

In 1986, when the court decided Bowers v. Hardwick, half the states had criminal sodomy laws on their books. Now just 13 do. Texas is one of four, along with Kansas, Oklahoma, and Missouri, with laws that apply only to sexual activity between people of the same sex. The sodomy laws of the other nine states — Alabama, Florida, Idaho, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Utah and Virginia — do not make that distinction. The Georgia law that the Supreme Court upheld was later invalidated by the Georgia Supreme Court.

The Texas law is being challenged by John G. Lawrence and Tyron Garner, who were found having sex in Mr. Lawrence's Houston apartment by police officers who entered through an unlocked door after receiving a report from a neighbor that there was a man with a gun in the apartment. The neighbor was later convicted of filing a false report. The two men were held in jail overnight, prosecuted and fined $200 each. Represented by the Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund, they challenged the constitutionality of the law and lost in a middle-level state appeals court. The Texas Supreme Court refused to hear the case.

The United States Supreme Court's decision to take the case has been interpreted on both sides as an indication that the court is likely to rule against the state. Both Texas and the organizations that have filed briefs on its side devote considerable energy in the briefs to trying to convince the justices that granting the case was a mistake, a choice of tactics that is usually an indication of concern that a decision that does reach the merits will be unfavorable.

If the justices do strike down the Texas law, the implications of the decision will depend on which route the court selects from among several that are available. The court could find that by singling out same-sex behavior Texas has violated the constitutional guarantee of equal protection. Because the Bowers v. Hardwick decision did not address equal protection, instead rejecting an argument based on the right to privacy, such a decision would not necessarily require the court to overrule the 1986 precedent.

The Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund's brief for the two men urges the court to go further and rule that any law making private consensual sexual behavior a crime infringes the liberty protected by the Constitution's due process guarantee. Several arguments in its brief appear tailored to Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, who voted with the majority in Bowers v. Hardwick but is now assumed, on the basis of her later support for abortion rights and her votes in other due process cases, to be at least open to persuasion.

For example, the brief includes a quotation from Jane Dee Hull, then the Republican governor of Arizona, where Justice O'Connor once served in the Legislature, on signing a bill repealing the state's sodomy law in 2001. "At the end of the day, I returned to one of my most basic beliefs about government: It does not belong in our private lives," Governor Hull said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: 3branchesofgovt; homosexualagenda; ifitfeelsgooddoit; itsjustsex; legislatefromcourts; libertariansliberals; nonewtaletotell; peckingparty; sodomylaws; usualsuspects
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To: HumanaeVitae
I'd rather have homosexuals in jail than out on the streets molesting young children.

Pitiful to continue this childish attempt to link homsexuality with child molestation.

Hetrosexuals commit more molestations than homosexuals. Lets jail all hetrosexuals under the same theory.

101 posted on 03/19/2003 9:58:05 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: HumanaeVitae
No, what I am saying is that there is no "right" to homosexual behavior.

There is no legitimate power to regulate sexual behavior between consenting adults.

102 posted on 03/19/2003 9:59:47 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: Protagoras

103 posted on 03/19/2003 9:59:57 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: HumanaeVitae
this law is appropriate and justified.

So cunnilingus and fellatio is OK between man and woman, but cunnilingus and fellatio is not OK between woman and woman, or man and man.

Is that "equality under the law?"

How "equal" is to allow a man to perform cunnilingus, but not to allow a woman to perform cunnilingus?

104 posted on 03/19/2003 10:01:45 AM PST by george wythe
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To: HumanaeVitae; Emmylou
Question for thread libertarians--

We all know that bums sell their bodies to medical schools for medical experimentation after they die. Medical schools could not teach without this.

So, let's say I'm a libertarian and I believe that the only immoral act is the initiation of force, fraud or coercion. Furthermore, I am not opposed to any behavior that is not voluntarily contracted.

So, I open up a restaurant that buys peoples' bodies to reprocess as food in my restaurant, called the Gunga Diner. Note--people voluntarily contract to give me their bodies after they die of natural causes (no force initiated) and my customers freely agree to eat human flesh. For a libertarian, there should be no problem with this right?

How about it libertarians? Voluntarily contracted cannibalism ok with you guys?

105 posted on 03/19/2003 10:02:52 AM PST by HumanaeVitae
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To: george wythe
Can't wait for the answer to this question, especially since I noted that HV's anti-rights formulation of morality would have no problem whatsoever with Jim Crow.
106 posted on 03/19/2003 10:03:04 AM PST by steve-b
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To: george wythe
Equality under the law does not speak to behaviors, george. See below.
107 posted on 03/19/2003 10:04:09 AM PST by HumanaeVitae
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To: Roscoe
Nazis and Bosco boys


108 posted on 03/19/2003 10:04:09 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: HumanaeVitae
Took you this long to trot out the tired old shock-jock Argument Helper[tm]?

Sorry, but "helper" only helps if you have meat to begin with, and you don't (human or otherwise).

109 posted on 03/19/2003 10:04:22 AM PST by steve-b
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To: HumanaeVitae
So, let's say I'm a libertarian and I believe that the only immoral act is the initiation of force, fraud or coercion.

You lie with alarming regularity.

110 posted on 03/19/2003 10:05:18 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: Protagoras
Bungled it again, I see.
111 posted on 03/19/2003 10:06:01 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: HumanaeVitae
Equality under the law does not speak to behaviors, george.

Ah, so you confirm that your concept of "equality before the law" permits you to distinguish between 1)the depositing of a ballot into a box by a hand lighter in color that the box's wood and 2)the depositing of a ballot into a box by a hand darker in color that the box's wood -- permitting the former and prohibiting the latter.

Gotcha.

112 posted on 03/19/2003 10:06:10 AM PST by steve-b
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To: HumanaeVitae
Sorry, see above, Gunga Diner example. How about it, Emmylou? You've quite a snarky sense of humor...see if you can finess that one. Care to respond?
113 posted on 03/19/2003 10:06:57 AM PST by HumanaeVitae
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To: Roscoe
Nope, I see you in there.
114 posted on 03/19/2003 10:07:51 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: HumanaeVitae
Ok, so you open up your sick restaurant.

And it goes out of business because people don't want to eat there (big surprise).

No law is needed, imagine that.

There is no law against eating dog poo. And lo and behold, people don't eat it.

You don't need government to dictate every aspect of your life. If you try real hard, you can do it yourself. Give it a try, it's liberating.

115 posted on 03/19/2003 10:08:09 AM PST by freeeee
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To: RJCogburn
Up THEIRS TOO!
116 posted on 03/19/2003 10:09:30 AM PST by Henchman
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To: RJCogburn; newgeezer
"Sodomy cops open up!!!"
117 posted on 03/19/2003 10:09:50 AM PST by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrissssstian)
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To: Protagoras
Nobody else does.

The requested URL /p/ap/20030227/capt.1046358730.egypt_arabs_antiwar_iraq_xhj102.jpg was not found on this server.
118 posted on 03/19/2003 10:09:57 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: freeeee
Wait, hold on...what if it is successful? Is that morally wrong? My restaurant is on my property, and I'm not hurting anyone, right? How could anyone shut me down?
119 posted on 03/19/2003 10:10:31 AM PST by HumanaeVitae
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To: Emmylou
Besides, most states no longer have sodomy laws on the books; do schools in those states teach people to be gay?

Yes, they do. Homosexual activism is glorified in public schools across the nation.

As I stated before, I have been told that the homosexuals in question deliberately got themselves arrested. Trust me, police are not breaking down doors all over Texas to arrest homosexuals.

120 posted on 03/19/2003 10:11:26 AM PST by Zack Nguyen
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