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In my 33 years in the catholic church I have attended no less than 7 individual churches. In none of these churches that I have attended did I EVER hear anything emphasizing the need to be born-again in spirit to enter the Kingdom of God. Nor did I EVER hear anything about the need to develop a personal relationship with Christ. I know many ex-roman catholics who attest to the same thing.

What I do find interesting is that you, who claim to be a roman catholic (not a Christian, but a roman catholic above all else), claim that this is indeed true; one must have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ to enter the Kingdom of God. Since, in my experience, I have never heard this from anyone in the roman catholic church I'm not sure I believe your claim that your church promotes this. You have nothing to back up your inferred claim that this is so. However, if you would care to leave the name of your priest on the thread I would love to give him a call and discuss the surprising matter with him. Please, also leave your own name since I would wish to give you credit for the post of his personal information.

If, of course you would prefer not to put your money where your mouth is, I perfectly understand. It is of course very irresponsible to post other people's private information on web sites. So, if you're not agreeable to doing it yourself, I would suggest not bringing it up again with asinine demands.

Yes, at the sake of sounding like a Pharisee, I do emphasis the need for a personal relationship with Christ. LOL! You got me there. (/sarcasm)

Your claims are absolutely ridiculous! If you have never heard this from anyone Catholic, you are not looking very hard. I would care to show you, but as I'm leaving on a trip momentarily, I'll have to wait a week. Why don't you ask a few Catholics on thse threads. [by the way you may be too hung up on your own terminology- Jesus never spoke English, though]

So, if you're not agreeable to doing it yourself, I would suggest not bringing it up again with asinine demands.

I never attacked a religion based on the alleged words of someone else.

So you've talked to some ex-Roman Catholics who weren't serious about their faith when they were Catholics. I'm glad that they are taking their faith more seriously now, but they shouldn't blame someone else for their own failings. Would you be interested in hearing the stories of Evangelical Christians, including ministers who followed God where ever He took them- including into the Catholic Church? Christians who have a deep relationship with Jesus.

Yes, at the sake of sounding like a Pharisee, I do emphasis the need for a personal relationship with Christ.

Look back to how the Pharisees treated Jesus and his disciples. You are so hung up on how you interpret one should have a relationship with Christ... you've lost site of the whole picture. For example, the Pharisees thought Jesus' disciples were deficient because of their lack of fasting. Jesus said to them, "Can the wedding guests fast while the bridegroom is with them? As long as they have the bridegroom with them, they cannot fast.'' The Pharisees fixated on their practice. They couldn't understand that Jesus' disciple were being true to God.