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Brian Mitchell and Wanda Barzee charged in Elizabeth Smart abduction...
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Posted on 03/18/2003 10:52:54 AM PST by Maedhros

Brian Mitchell and Wanda Barzee charged with kidnapping, sexual assault and burglary in Elizabeth Smart abduction...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: forgreatjustice
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To: RecentConvert
You should go to the other thread and deliver that message to Albertas Child. Unbelievable!
241 posted on 03/18/2003 1:58:03 PM PST by MAWG
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To: ewing
You're courageous and must be praised for doing so.

God bless.
242 posted on 03/18/2003 2:01:54 PM PST by RecentConvert (Let's control immigration before immigration controls us.)
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To: Illbay
"Note to all those "Elizabeth didn't try to escape; there's something we aren't being told" chorus members here: Elizabeth was BOUND, GAGGED, AND SEXUALLY ASSAULTED MULTIPLE TIMES in the days following her abduction."

what this poor girl has gone thru and yet NOT ONE ADULT of the smiling and lovable Smart family will stand up to protect this girl...not one....

...their idea of compassion is to make a movie of Elizabeth's nightmare, so she can relive it again and again and so the whole world will know of her tragedy....

yeah...that shows so much love and respect for that kid, doesn't it....

I am just wondering who out there really loves that girl, because the adults around her seemingly don't give a damn what happens to her....

243 posted on 03/18/2003 2:03:29 PM PST by cherry
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To: Yeti
"But at an early age like Elizabeth, you pay the price in the vulnerabilty that comes with naivete.

A street urchin might have fared better psychologically."

I wonder. It could also be that Elizabeth will recover from her ordeal much better, due to her parent's careful and nurturing care before the ordeal. She was obviously encouraged to acheive, through music, etc., by her parents. I'm certain she knew she was loved by her parents and the rest of her family.

Such a background should help her to recover from the horror of her captivity. No doubt she'll receive third-party counseling as well, but I suspect her strong family-oriented upbringing will also serve her well.

I've known several Mormon families, and their children have all grown up strong, active, and self-sufficient. While I am not a Mormon (or any other religion), it's clear that the LDS's emphasis on family does build strong characters in its children, while keeping them from cynicism, or at least that's my experience.

What a sad situation that this family has been forced to face! How much sadder it is when people outside of the family, and people who have no knowledge whatever of the family, accuse them of things that are untrue.

Did the father make a speech about the Amber Alert system? Yes, he did. Was it well-advised? Probably not, but it certainly was heart-felt. He got his daughter back, but knew that others had not gotten their abducted children back.

Will a TV program or book come out of this? No doubt, either with or without the input of the Smarts. Far better, I think, with their input. This whole business has cost this family, both monetarily and psychologically. I think we should _all_ leave them to their healing.
244 posted on 03/18/2003 2:03:34 PM PST by MineralMan
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To: AppyPappy
>This was a clear case of child endangerment in which Ed and Lois Smart placed the welfare and safety of their minor children at extreme risk<

That's a huge load of BS.

And it is. Watch them asking for Children Services to break up the family and take their children away. Don't laugh. This may be next in their undefensible defenses.

245 posted on 03/18/2003 2:05:26 PM PST by RecentConvert (Let's control immigration before immigration controls us.)
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To: RecentConvert
Ed Smart said on the day when Elizabeth was found that she had been through hell. Yes, she has.
246 posted on 03/18/2003 2:06:09 PM PST by Utah Girl ("We must stop evil before it becomes too powerful." - Elie Weisel.)
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To: alnick
I wasn't going to bring this up until I heard more, but I think your post qualifys.

I read an article that SLC street folk saying they had seen "Emmanuel" with THREE women after Elizabeths kidnapping.

Ever since I read that I've though there was a chance there was another abductee...one who might even have been murdered.

I"ll look up the article and give you the link
247 posted on 03/18/2003 2:10:22 PM PST by SarahW
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To: RecentConvert
"Watch them asking for Children Services to break up the family and take their children away. "

That will never happen, not in Utah. Eventually, these fools will find some other unfortunate family or person to attack. Then, perhaps, they'll leave the Smarts alone. Sheesh!
248 posted on 03/18/2003 2:10:53 PM PST by MineralMan
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To: Hildy
We hate to say we told them so...(but we told them so.)
249 posted on 03/18/2003 2:11:22 PM PST by veronica (30 hours and counting.....)
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To: RecentConvert
Why are there so many immature people around here lately. All this name calling, threats and demands. Man.....
250 posted on 03/18/2003 2:13:41 PM PST by ethical
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To: Maedhros
Mitchell ought to be drawn and quartered for his comments and the name he calls Eliz: "Remnant-that-shall-return".

He's convinced that she loves him and will come back to him.

Poor child to be stuck with these weirdos for so long.
251 posted on 03/18/2003 2:15:32 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: alnick
Here is the link for that article:

http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Mar/03152003/utah/38501.asp

The line that caught my attention: "Some street people said they saw Mitchell traveling with three women"
252 posted on 03/18/2003 2:15:56 PM PST by SarahW
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To: ethical
"Why are there so many immature people around here lately. All this name calling, threats and demands. Man.....
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They've always been around, ethical. Make notes of the names of those who are doing this attacking of the Smarts, then watch for them on other threads. Frankly, I plan to discount what they say, now, regardless of the topic. Their poor judgment has been proven in the Smart threads. I see no reason to trust it in other topics.
253 posted on 03/18/2003 2:15:56 PM PST by MineralMan
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To: MineralMan
Such a background should help her to recover from the horror of her captivity.

We can certainly hope that it will do precisely that.

254 posted on 03/18/2003 2:19:34 PM PST by Yeti
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To: Palladin
Even Saddam gets 48!! : )
256 posted on 03/18/2003 2:20:12 PM PST by Politicalmom
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To: cherry
what this poor girl has gone thru and yet NOT ONE ADULT of the smiling and lovable Smart family will stand up to protect this girl...not one....

You think the Smarts should be trolling FR to have flame wars with bashers?

257 posted on 03/18/2003 2:22:06 PM PST by Yeti
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To: SarahW
""Some street people said they saw Mitchell traveling with three women""

I think they were referring to Elizabeth. She was with the other two in public, covered by the veil. That doesn't mean there may not have been another person at some time, but I think this story is referring to Elizabeth as the third person.
258 posted on 03/18/2003 2:22:19 PM PST by MineralMan
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To: FreeTally
Source: Reuters

"At the campsite Barzee attempted to remove Elizabeth Smart's pajamas," prosecutors said in the charging documents. "When she resisted, Barzee threatened to have Mitchell forcibly remove Elizabeth Smart's clothing."

"The documents say Mitchell used a cable to restrain Smart from escaping and sexually assaulted her on other occasions"

And here is the source link.

259 posted on 03/18/2003 2:23:37 PM PST by RecentConvert (Let's control immigration before immigration controls us.)
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To: Yeti
"You think the Smarts should be trolling FR to have flame wars with bashers?" Really. Doesn't everyone come to FR?
260 posted on 03/18/2003 2:23:46 PM PST by MineralMan
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