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To: Physicist
And every enjoyable pastime seriously offends somebody, somewhere. But that doesn't make it wrong.

Pornography is objectively wrong because it violates the Natural Law. By reducing a female human being to the status of a product, it offends against the dignity of the human person. Furthermore, it offends against the natural order of sexual relations: the relationship between husband and wife. By alienating sexual pleasure from the loving and procreative aspects of sexual relations it creates a perversion of those relations. The sin of gluttony comes from the alienation of the sensual pleasure of tasting and consuming food from the nutritive and social aspects of eating; in the same way, the alienation of the sensual pleasure of making love from the reproductive and emotional aspects of the sexual union is sinful (=contrary to the natural order).

Having someone ogle my daughters would bother me, yes. That's because they're 7 and 5 years old.

The primary rule of ethical behavior is: do unto others as you would have them do unto you. You have admitted that having someone ogle your daughters would bother you. Therefore, it is ethically unsound for you to condone the practice, since every woman is somebody's daughter.

But they won't be children forever: at some point, it will be their call, not mine.

"They won't be children forever: at some point, if they decide to become heroin addicts it will be their call, not mine." If that's the way you truly feel, I pity you.

39 posted on 03/17/2003 10:19:28 AM PST by B-Chan (..._ On To Baghdad!)
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To: B-Chan
The primary rule of ethical behavior is: do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

I want large numbers of women to ogle me.

42 posted on 03/17/2003 10:24:15 AM PST by Physicist
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To: B-Chan
The sin of gluttony comes from the alienation of the sensual pleasure of tasting and consuming food from the nutritive and social aspects of eating

First, let's strip the "social aspects" right out of the question, unless you're going to argue with a straight face that it's somehow sinful to dine alone.

As for the nutritive aspects, it is an objective fact that if you eat too much, you will get fat and suffer various unfortunate health consequences (or purge yourself and suffer various other unfortunate health consequences). The negative health consequences of viewing nekkid people, or of being viewed nekkid (if it's warm enough to disrobe in reasonable comfort) have yet to be demonstrated.

68 posted on 03/17/2003 12:23:23 PM PST by steve-b
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