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1 posted on 03/17/2003 6:31:47 AM PST by Ryan C
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To: Ryan C
I don't doubt that the Iraqi's don't hate us, after all they yearn to be free like most people around the world.

What I would ask you is why are you so racist and why do you hate the Iraqi people?

Why would you think that an American is worth so much more than thousands of Iraqi's? After all, that is why you went, isn't it? You thought "if an American is there it will make a difference". How arrogant. The development of "smart bombs", which costs millions and millions of dollars to develop, are due to our militaries concern over sparing civilians during a conflict. Compare this to Saddam Husseins use of poison gas on men, women and children in putting down rebellions.

This leads us to my second question. If we, the U.S. care enough to develop weapons that will minimize the loss of lives of Iraqi's and Saddam has shown that he is willing to kill tens of thousands of Iraqi's if they chafe at his dictatorship, then why do you support his government over ours at the expense of Iraqi lives?

Through your ignorance you have proved that you are friends of dictatorship, an enemy of freedom, and a supporter of the butcher of thousands of Iraqi men, women, and children.

Here is a deal for you. After we get done removing Saddam and his cronies from power, why don't you go back to Baghdad and announce how you tried to keep America from removing him from power. Let's see how happy they are for your efforts at that time.

36 posted on 03/17/2003 6:42:40 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Ryan C
Opposing this war is not treasonous.

Providing AID AND COMFORT to the enemy nation (IRAQ) IS.

38 posted on 03/17/2003 6:42:47 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Take charge of your destiny, or someone else will)
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To: MadIvan
Help me out with the slang, Ivan. Is this guy a twit or a git?
41 posted on 03/17/2003 6:43:02 AM PST by wimpycat ('Nemo me impune lacessit')
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So you, in your infinite compassion, would rather we stand by and allow those people to live in fear and poverty. You think it's OK that Saddam cuts out tounges, dips his people in acid vats, kills or imprisons them as he chooses, threatens their families. I see.

Gee, take your compassion somewhere else will you, decent people don't want to be around someone like you.

42 posted on 03/17/2003 6:43:17 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: Ryan C
I am terrified

Yes, we know.

44 posted on 03/17/2003 6:43:58 AM PST by Kevin Curry
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46 posted on 03/17/2003 6:44:56 AM PST by Bars4Bill
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To: Ryan C
This idiot is nothing but a Maxi-Shield.
50 posted on 03/17/2003 6:45:33 AM PST by jackbill
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To: Ryan C
I was not comforting the enemy – I was comforting the Iraqi people.

Obstructing war efforts is "aiding and abetting" and therefore comforting. A treasonous act. You wanna peacefully protest here, is one thing. What you and others are doing, as American citizens, is treasonous.

51 posted on 03/17/2003 6:45:35 AM PST by ThomasMore ([1 Pet 3:15-16])
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Do you know why Iraqi children are starving, in spite of billions of dollars in oil money flowing into the country?

a) Because the UN is holding on to half the money instead of using it for food and medicine.

b) Because Saddam is channeling all the supplies to his friends and starving his enemies, and the UN says it's up to Saddam to decide how to spend it.

c) Because Saddam is spending a large part of national income on weapons, which the French, Germans, Russians, and North Koreans are very kindly selling to him.
52 posted on 03/17/2003 6:45:42 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Sen. Lindsey Graham recently called our actions as Human Shields "treasonous" and hopes to see us punished for more than the ten years in jail and $1 million in fines that the law currently allows for. He said that we were "giving aid and comfort to the enemy."

With all due respect, Lindsey Graham is out to lunch on this one. American citizens who act as human shields are only considered "treasonous" because the United States has taken it upon itself to allow these people to impact our military's war plans.

Why not just let Mother Nature and Uncle Sam run their natural course? The first time a "human shield" comes back from Iraq in a coffee can will be the last time Lindsey Graham will ever need to concern himself with human shields in Iraq.

55 posted on 03/17/2003 6:46:00 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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"...even knowing that I was from a country whose stated aim is to bomb them back into the stone age."

The rhetoric, clumsy emotionalism and outright mendacity of this statement beggars the imagination. President Bush and our military leadership are going to extraordinary ends to protect civilians while removing a 21st Century Hitler. Never, never, never have you heard our leadership say anything approximating 'bomb them back into the stone age.'

The equation is simple. There will be less suffering and death through the removal of Saddam and his coterie of madmen than by leaving them in power.

Would you have traveled to Berlin in 1938 to express solidarity with the German people or would you have supported the removal of Hitler?

The spirit of Neville Chamberlain lives in the disastrously ill-informed efforts of those who have learned nothing from history.
56 posted on 03/17/2003 6:46:01 AM PST by esopman (Blessings on Freepers Everywhere)
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To: Ryan C
Why did you come back? Oh yeah, you're a coward.
58 posted on 03/17/2003 6:46:30 AM PST by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, Zoolander)
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"I was not comforting the enemy – I was comforting the Iraqi people. The only aid that I provided was construction paper and crayons for children, and I did so fairly confident that they would not be used to make weapons of mass destruction.

What YOU fail to understand about your actions is that you not only put yourself in danger, but you put other American's in danger for your selfish acts...and make no mistake about it, your act was selfish! By placing yourself in harms way (with or without crayons)you would have forced the allied forces to possibly have to alter an effective campaign to take out Saddam, not the people of Iraq.

This is your shortsigtedness and by acting in this treasonist way (Whether you understand it or not) you should have to abide by what the law of this land dictates....if you would have come back alive!

59 posted on 03/17/2003 6:46:52 AM PST by sirchtruth
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"If we set the precedent that countries can be justifiably attacked because we don't agree with them and they have weapons of mass destruction, I am afraid that we will become the next target."

Is it a precedent to enforce a cease-fire agreement reached with a country you defeated in its war of agression? We didn't pick Iraq out of the blue.

60 posted on 03/17/2003 6:47:19 AM PST by SupplySider
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From http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/02/24/eveningnews/main541713.shtml

61 posted on 03/17/2003 6:47:50 AM PST by RippleFire
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Ryan C signed up 2003-03-17.

You display the same faulty thinking that others like you share. Your heart MAY be in the right place, but your beliefs are based on erroneous assumptions and false interpretations of the facts. If you posted here to stir up emotional reactions like many board-disruptors have done before you, I hope you don't come back.

If you hang around a while and "read to understand" the information posted here, you'll realize you're dead wrong.

63 posted on 03/17/2003 6:47:55 AM PST by lsee
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To: Ryan C
I dedicate this song to you, Ryan C.

The Ballad of Sir Robin

Bravely bold Sir Robin rode forth from Camelot.
He was not afraid to die, O brave Sir Robin.
He was not at all afraid to be killed in nasty ways,
Brave, brave, brave, brave Sir Robin!

He was not in the least bit scared to be mashed into a pulp,
Or to have his eyes gouged out and his elbows broken,
To have his kneecaps split and his body burned away
And his limbs all hacked and mangled, brave Sir Robin!

His head smashed in and his heart cut out
And his liver removed and his bowels unplugged
And his nostrils raped and his bottom burned off
And his pen--

--Monthy Python and the Holy Grail

65 posted on 03/17/2003 6:48:39 AM PST by rabidralph (Brad Pitt + Albert Einstein = Dick Cheney)
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The people in Iraq may hate our foreign policy, and what the sanctions have done to their country, but they do not hate us.

Your thought processes are prejudiced and biased. You allow the Iraqi people the ability to hate our government and not our people, but you don't allow for the possibility that the US is only attacking Saddam, and not the people.

You say things like "I fear what we are going to do to the Iraqi people." We are not attacking the people, we are attacking Saddam Hussein's tyrannical regime. If the Iraqi people would take a short 10 day "vacation" outside of Baghdad, they will live.

To us, you appear just as deluded as that airport security guard when you refuse to recognize the evil of tyrannical, murderous government.

67 posted on 03/17/2003 6:49:19 AM PST by ez (Advise and Consent = Debate and VOTE!!)
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OK, you've been called "idiot" enough. Although I'm certain you'll get more of it. So I want to share something else with you.

You've come to the right place to get honest information and debate about the issues that concern you. You care about the Iraqi people, or you wouldn't have gone to Iraq. So you're misinformed, but not unfeeling.

You care about peace...that's plain because you have put yourself in a dangerous situation in the name of peace, but have you considered the concept of enduring, long-term peace?

My sincere advice is to lay low, take your lumps on this post, and read, read, read. FR participants are some of the most informed, articulate people you'll cyber-meet. I learn something new on this board nearly every day, and often find that my previous bedrock thoughts and beliefs are modified because of the honest debate that goes on here.

Don't assume you're right on everything, and be willing to debate issues with an open mind. No cause is hopeless.

68 posted on 03/17/2003 6:49:22 AM PST by TontoKowalski
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To: Ryan C; newgeezer
In calling for war, I am terrified,

That pretty much sums it up.

72 posted on 03/17/2003 6:50:49 AM PST by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrissssstian)
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