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Rebels claim 160 MPs will defy party
Guardian Unlimited ^ | 3/17/03

Posted on 03/16/2003 7:44:55 PM PST by areafiftyone

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1 posted on 03/16/2003 7:44:55 PM PST by areafiftyone
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What the heck are frontbench and backbench party members?
2 posted on 03/16/2003 7:48:08 PM PST by Dog Gone
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Waaaaa...I'm going to take my toys and go home. Crybabies!
3 posted on 03/16/2003 7:50:23 PM PST by whadizit (A)
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Blair needs to always remember that in politics you had better be right.
4 posted on 03/16/2003 7:52:36 PM PST by wadecollins (`)
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Blair needs to always remember that in politics you had better be right.
5 posted on 03/16/2003 7:52:36 PM PST by wadecollins (`)
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I just hope the Torries forget politics and vote with Blair. This is too serius for them to take advantage and watch Blair's government fall.
6 posted on 03/16/2003 7:53:44 PM PST by dinok
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This is a lose-lose situation for the British Left. Even if their plans eventuate, they will weaken Tony Blair without toppling him and diminish the chances that Labor can continue govern. If the campaign in Iraq goes well, it will empower centrist Labor party members to take the knife to the extreme left of their party. The Conservatives can just stand and watch, in any case.

Labor could successfully triangulate so long as issues were kept general and nebulous. When the litmus test of British national interest came along, the mask dissolved. Cooperation with America has the same effect on the left as garlic does to vampires. It reduces them to raging pain and irrationality. Always a joy to watch.
7 posted on 03/16/2003 7:54:34 PM PST by wretchard
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Backbenchers are members of parliament that have no leadership position. They are the rank and file members. The frontbench (so called because they seat in the front of the chamber nearer the prime minister) have some sort of leadership position. Frontbenchers usually have more experience and have more power.
8 posted on 03/16/2003 7:55:28 PM PST by afuturegovernor
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in politics you had better be right.
in politics you had better be right.

And if ain't right, say it twice.

9 posted on 03/16/2003 7:55:56 PM PST by Semper911 (For some people, bread and circus are not enough. Hence, FreeRepublic.com)
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To: dinok
Duncan-Smith has already committed to that.
10 posted on 03/16/2003 7:55:56 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Dog Gone
The backbench members have relatives in San Francisco.
11 posted on 03/16/2003 7:57:00 PM PST by Beck_isright (Does Chirac own all of the Vichy Chicks CDs??)
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The headline from the left-wing Guardian is misleading. Almost the entire article suggests that Blair will win the vote.
12 posted on 03/16/2003 7:57:27 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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I am sure the Tories will support Blair and the war:

"Britain's security is at stake. That's why I've backed those who are ready to take on that tyrant Saddam Hussein." Duncan Smith, Conservative Party Leader

13 posted on 03/16/2003 7:57:28 PM PST by afuturegovernor
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Thanks.
14 posted on 03/16/2003 7:59:18 PM PST by Dog Gone
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What the heck are frontbench and backbench party members?

I hear you. What I don't know about the British parliment system could fill a book.

Ivan, can you help us here? Can Tony lose his job over this? And if so, how much time would he have?

Will it help when the women and children in Baghdad are dancing in the streets and hugging American and British soldiers?

15 posted on 03/16/2003 7:59:50 PM PST by Semper911 (For some people, bread and circus are not enough. Hence, FreeRepublic.com)
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To: Dog Gone
What the heck are frontbench and backbench party members?

Watch the Prime Ministers Questions on CSpan. The front benchers sit in front of a rail and generally "answer" questions. The backbenchers literally sit on benches in the back, behind the rail, and seem to fire question at those inside the rail, the frontbenchers.

It seems to be the leadership and the rank and file.

16 posted on 03/16/2003 8:00:03 PM PST by ez (Advise and Consent = Debate and VOTE!!)
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What the heck are frontbench and backbench party members?

Perhaps from this context we can figure out something:

Backbench committees
Both the Labour and Conservative parties in Parliament have a number of backbench committees.

These committees meet regularly to discuss particular areas of policy and are considered to play an important role in keeping party leaderships informed of backbench opinion.

Both Labour and the Conservatives also have a number of regional backbench committees at which MPs from a particular area get together to discuss issues relevant to their region.

Historically, a famous and powerful backbench committee has been the Conservative Party's 1922 Committee, of which all Conservative backbenchers are members.

Labour's backbench committees are known as departmental groups and regional groups.

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I am guessing the backbenchers are the Members of Parliament who do not have any leadership positions!

17 posted on 03/16/2003 8:00:50 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Nuke Saddam ( Bush is thinking about it ) and then what about Germany and France?)
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To: Dog Gone
Well I was using Google and it takes awhile!
18 posted on 03/16/2003 8:02:32 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Nuke Saddam ( Bush is thinking about it ) and then what about Germany and France?)
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To: wretchard
will empower centrist Labor party members to take the knife to the extreme left of their party.

I think that's why PM Blair looked so cheery during Prime Minister's Minutes last week. He was thinking, "Just a few more weeks you worthless Stalinist sods and I'll be rid of you once and for all." Of course, they'll all secure sinecures at the heart of darkness in the EU bureaucracy in Brussels or become, gasp, MEP's!!

19 posted on 03/16/2003 8:02:36 PM PST by pierrem15
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I just hope the Torries forget politics and vote with Blair. This is too serius for them to take advantage and watch Blair's government fall.

Iain Duncan Smith has already indicated as much. He's not going to play politics with this.
20 posted on 03/16/2003 8:02:58 PM PST by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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