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SCIENTOLOGY: A SATANIC LINK?
NY Post ^ | 03-16-03 | NY Post - Page Six

Posted on 03/16/2003 8:22:46 AM PST by JCG

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Some pedigree for a "religion."

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1 posted on 03/16/2003 8:22:46 AM PST by JCG
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To: JCG
Hubbard's connection to Crowley is well known.

The one-stop shopping destination for Scientology debunking has to be Operation Clambake. Squick squick squick.

2 posted on 03/16/2003 8:25:43 AM PST by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: JCG
Rumor has it that Scientology was actually based on a joke by L. Ron (a looneytune who was a subject-matter expert on looneytunes). He bet some friends of his that he could start his own religion, and that people would be stupid enough to believe it and practice its "tenets."
3 posted on 03/16/2003 8:27:36 AM PST by strela ("a' poppin' off at Pop's Sodium Shop")
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To: JCG
Here's an interview on Scamintology with Bob Minton before the body snatchers got to him:

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4 posted on 03/16/2003 8:29:34 AM PST by agitator (Ok, mic check...line one...)
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To: strela
and that people would be stupid enough to believe it and practice its "tenets."
Interesting that it has attracted so many actors (draw your own conclusions as to the intellect of the average actor).
5 posted on 03/16/2003 8:30:26 AM PST by Scutter
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To: Petronski
"Hubbard's connection to Crowley is well known."

News to me, at least. All I know is, Scientology seems downright weird to me. I find it as difficult to watch movies starring its followers as I do to watch movies starring anti-American "peace" niks. Once I find out a star is a Scientologist, I avoid their movies or cds, whatever. Sorry if I'm offending anyone, but those people give me the creeps.

6 posted on 03/16/2003 8:40:02 AM PST by MizSterious ("The truth takes only seconds to tell."--Jack Straw)
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To: Scutter
Interesting that it has attracted so many actors

True. The Scientologists spend a lot of money to make their "celebrity" parishioners as visible as possible. The problem is that the celebs aren't the ones eating rice and beans (if they get that) on the Freewinds and at other Scientology installations, like much of the rest of the congregation.

7 posted on 03/16/2003 8:41:50 AM PST by strela ("a' poppin' off at Pop's Sodium Shop")
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To: Petronski
Mention John Whiteside Parsons to a long-time Scientolgist and watch the reaction.
8 posted on 03/16/2003 8:45:30 AM PST by lavrenti
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To: strela
The version I heard is that Hubbard was having an argument with Robert Heinlein and A.E. Van Vogt, wherein Hubbard maintained that science could be made into a religion. Heinlein vehemently disagreed, so Hubbard bet them that he could do it.
9 posted on 03/16/2003 8:51:00 AM PST by Physicist
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To: Scutter
Interesting that it has attracted so many actors

And lawyers, like Greta Van Sustern and her husband.

10 posted on 03/16/2003 8:51:59 AM PST by jackbill
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To: Scutter
Interesting that it has attracted so many actors

It draws the general public too. Drop by Clearwater, FL. People will latch onto any framework that directs their lives. The power of delusion is pretty incredible.
11 posted on 03/16/2003 8:55:36 AM PST by Belial
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Greta Van Susteren and her husband, tobacco (and Julie Hiatt Steele's) lawyer, John Coale - Scientologists.
12 posted on 03/16/2003 8:57:23 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: JCG; All
Link to Paglia's article which I haven't read ... yet.


http://www.bu.edu/arion/paglia_cults00.htm
13 posted on 03/16/2003 9:03:53 AM PST by aculeus
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To: MizSterious
My sister, her husband, their four daughters, and their husbands are all Scientologists. They all seem to be nice enough people, but they donate, tithe if you will, at least 50% of their substantial income to these cultists. When sis first joined she explained to me their purification ritual. She was required to take mega-doses of niacin, spend several hours a day (for weeks) in a sauna while having the beliefs of the group repeated to her over and over.

She's constantly sending me books written by Hubbard and I'm positive all his followers are just a bunch of kooks.
14 posted on 03/16/2003 9:06:58 AM PST by Quilla
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To: MizSterious
Once I find out a star is a Scientologist, I avoid their movies or cds, whatever. Sorry if I'm offending anyone, but those people give me the creeps.

I kinda feel the same way. I don't altogether avoid their movies, but I'll admit I'd like John Travolta a lot more if I didn't think he believed we were all posessed by the restless spirits of dead space aliens intentionally slaughtered on earth billions of years ago....
15 posted on 03/16/2003 9:10:32 AM PST by Welsh Rabbit
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To: JCG
Alister Crowley: late 19th/early 20th cent. English magician/sourcerer/satanist who was a huge influence on philosophy of rock music bands and singers in 20th century and currently, along with the hippie movenent and general rebellion against God in our culture since the 1950-60's. Huge influence.
16 posted on 03/16/2003 9:11:14 AM PST by Gal.5:1 (fight the good fight)
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To: Petronski
I could have written the above and Paglia's essay too. This stuff has been on the internet for years .... even at Salon Magazine. "Love and Rockets"


http://216.239.33.100/search?q=cache:pZZNROOy7MsC:www.salon.com/tech/books/2000/02/15/parsons/print.html+jet+propulsion++hubbard++crowley&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
17 posted on 03/16/2003 9:12:48 AM PST by dennisw ( http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
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To: JCG; RnMomof7; xzins; drstevej; Wrigley; CCWoody; fortheDeclaration; Aquinasfan
http://www.steamshovelpress.com/sexandrockets.html

No discussion of Hubbard even makes sense without this book. It is illuminating.
18 posted on 03/16/2003 9:16:58 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg
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To: Scutter
"Bowfinger" BUMP!
19 posted on 03/16/2003 9:19:37 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg
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To: lavrenti
"Sex and Rockets" BUMP!
20 posted on 03/16/2003 9:21:53 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg
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