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I think the author exaggerates the extent of Irish anti-Americanism, but one of the best pieces debunking the anti-war crowd I've seen.

Happy St. Patrick's Day (soon) Everyone.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 03/15/2003 4:10:21 PM PST by MadIvan
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2 posted on 03/15/2003 4:10:34 PM PST by MadIvan (Learn the power of the Dark Side, www.thedarkside.net)
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To: MadIvan
Ireland sat out World War 2. It can sit out this one. Irish-American relations suffered no particular damage from Irish neutrality in the conflict against Hitler. Why should it suffer any damage now?

The Irish are coated with teflon as far as most Americans are concerned, for psychological reasons. We can't really get as riled at them as at the French.
3 posted on 03/15/2003 4:20:00 PM PST by wretchard
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To: MadIvan
I hope Irish anti-Americanism is exaggerated. I could care less what the rest of the world thinks, but whenever I hear of British anti-Americanism, or Irish anti-Americanism, I get a pang.....I mean, that is where my family is from! I hope many of them realize they probably have American relatives that they know nothing about. The English surnames carried by my family members are fairly common, as are the Irish ones. I am sure I have traceable relatives from both countries that I, unfortunately, will never know.
4 posted on 03/15/2003 4:20:14 PM PST by Morrigan
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To: MadIvan
Good article. Thanks for posting it.

It escapes me how President Bush can be the world's most reviled man, and not his predecessor - as far as I'm concerned, this country was without a president when Clinton was in office.
6 posted on 03/15/2003 4:24:47 PM PST by Theresawithanh (A conservative from the PRC (People's Republic of California))
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To: MadIvan
English by birth....
Irish by choice.
7 posted on 03/15/2003 4:27:30 PM PST by JusPasenThru (Bork, Thomas, Estrada...has the Left no shame?)
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To: MadIvan; WarSlut
Great Article, ping!
8 posted on 03/15/2003 4:36:26 PM PST by cgk (the Mrs half)
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To: MadIvan
Ireland has my admiration in one aspect: abortion is illegal in their country. Way ahead of us there.
9 posted on 03/15/2003 4:37:39 PM PST by cgk (the Mrs half)
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To: MadIvan
To bad there aren't more clear thinking people like Mr. Quinn. The world would be a saner and safer place.
10 posted on 03/15/2003 4:38:02 PM PST by Red Dog #1
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To: MadIvan
I'm part English and part Irish. I wanted to go hunting in Ireland this year but after I read what the Irish were saying about us, I cancelled the trip. They didn't see about ten grand of my money, and I won't be buying any hunt horses from them, either. Other American tourists who don't want to be subjected to anti-American abuse have done the same.

Sorry, Ireland, but you folks are the ones who are being arrogant. You propose to tell us what our bearing toward the world should be, but you do not have to deal with foreign entities coming into your country and killing thousands of your citizens. It is not your economy that has been decimated by attack.

The Islamofascists are our Cromwell. You hated, feared, and fought Cromwell when he attacked Ireland, so how can you not understand that we would fight the same thing here? Or have you forgotten your own history?

16 posted on 03/15/2003 5:24:24 PM PST by Capriole (Foi vainquera)
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Ivan...what is this? A Sunday Times HIT PIECE on the Irish?

For Chrissakes!

I dare say the author hasn't talked to Joe Soap Irish public..(Of course, he probably only talks on the phone to the bullshit artists of the Irish Times and the Dublin 4 effete elite).

Certainly there is anti-war opposition in Ireland, the same way as there is across Europe and in America.

BUT..American troops WILL land in Shannon (for as long as they want to)...because what is Ireland WITHOUT it's closest Allies (America and Britain?)

Bertie is not a fuggin idiot.

This article is a pre-St. Patrick's Day hit piece by the Sunday Times, IMHO.
20 posted on 03/15/2003 6:07:40 PM PST by Happygal
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David Quinn: We’ll all pay a heavy price for poisoning America’s Irish stew

Good article! I have to admit that when I first read the headline about poisoning America's Irish stew, the first thing I thought of was Kennedy. He's the epitome of "poisoned Irish stew".

28 posted on 03/15/2003 6:52:54 PM PST by meyer
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To: MadIvan
It was not an endorsement of Saddam. It was the equivalent of giving Stalin weapons with which to defeat Hitler. Stalin was awful, Hitler was worse, and when the second world war ended it was time to deal with Stalin. When the Iran-Iraq war ended, and Baghdad then turned its attentions to Kuwait, the time had come to deal with it.

Excellent passage which you have highlighted. That speaks volumes!

29 posted on 03/15/2003 6:54:36 PM PST by meyer
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To: MadIvan; rugerman; Overtaxed; RosieCotton
I don't mind giving up french wine (I'm a tea-totaller and can't afford it anyway).

I don't mind giving up belgian waffles...they just make me fat.

But there is NO WAY, no matter what they say or do, there is no way I'm giving up my Irish Pennywhistle.


46 posted on 03/15/2003 8:53:48 PM PST by 2Jedismom (You just never know.)
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To: MadIvan
I agree! This is an excellent article. It would be interesting to hear the response to it by the readers in Ireland.
59 posted on 03/16/2003 8:51:02 AM PST by Paulus Invictus
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To: MadIvan
Many of these same "Narrow Backs" are the same knee pad wearing Clintoooon suck ups that idolize the Hilly and Billy duo!
64 posted on 03/16/2003 11:50:19 AM PST by leprechaun9
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