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Excerpts from Elizabeth Smart's kidnapper's manifesto
CNN.COM ^ | Friday, March 14, 2003 Posted: 10:33 PM EST (0333 GMT)

Posted on 03/15/2003 2:53:09 AM PST by Knuckle Sandwich Combo

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:02:14 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

"Yea, even Jesus Christ speaking by the voice of my servant whom I have called and chosen to be a light and a covenant to the world in these last days. I have called him and given him a name to be had in remembrance before me, even the name Immanuel David Isaiah, which name being interpreted means: God with us -- Beloved of God -- The Lord is salvation -- signifying the deliverence (sic) that shall come to my people by my mighty hand in these last days...."


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To: kcvl
He was at a health food store drunk? That's strange.

Too much holy wine

21 posted on 03/15/2003 4:59:25 AM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Thebaddog
I've been wondering where these drifters got their money to travel.

They panhandled and stole. Apparently, the modern day prophet needed beer.

Mitchell Arraigned on Theft Charge



    In his first public appearance since his Wednesday arrest for allegedly kidnapping Elizabeth Smart, Brian David Mitchell was arraigned Friday in Salt Lake City's justice court on a shoplifting charge from September 2002.
    Speaking to Judge Zane Gill via closed-circuit television from the Salt Lake County Jail, Mitchell seemed calm, said he understood questions from the judge and responded concisely in a clear voice. He pleaded innocent to class B misdemeanor retail theft.
    Attorney Catherine Lilly from the Salt Lake Legal Defenders Association temporarily represented Mitchell on Friday.
    On Sept. 27, Mitchell allegedly tried to steal merchandise valued at $52.39 -- a flashlight, batteries, gum and beer -- from a Salt Lake City Albertson's store. Mitchell told police his name was "Go with God, born sometime after Christ," but en route to jail, Mitchell gave his real name and date of birth. He was cited and released without being booked into jail. He did not appear for a scheduled arraignment two weeks later. The police report does not indicate whether Mitchell had been alone at the grocery store.
    The judge Friday set Mitchell's bail at $555, but he is being held without bail on suspicion of aggravated kidnapping. A shoplifting conviction carries a possible sentence of up to 6 months in jail and a $1,000 fine, but Salt Lake City prosecutor Sim Gill said the city charge could be dismissed in favor of the more serious kidnapping case.
    "When the time comes, and if circumstances change, we might review our status in the interest of judicial economy," the prosecutor said.
    -- Stephen Hunt
   

22 posted on 03/15/2003 5:00:19 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: wastoute
From the various histories I have read...

Thanks for that synopsis.

An excellent resource for their history is a book named the Kingdom Of The Cults (Walter Martin). This guy documents every single sentence in that history.

I just don't remember enough about how the polygamy angle was introduced , but I certainly believe your account.

It's so sad that you have a group of people that take stock in a guy that was a gold digger and peepstone sorcerer.

The truth of the matter is I doubt most Mormons even know their own church history.

23 posted on 03/15/2003 5:01:04 AM PST by sirchtruth
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To: Knuckle Sandwich Combo
Anybody notice the CREEPY FIXED STARE -empty soul- is thye same in old photographs of Rasputin?

Is it just me?

Anybody knows what I'm talking about?

Anyway, I do believe somebody very nasty is behind them peepers, you know...
24 posted on 03/15/2003 5:02:47 AM PST by Psalm118
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To: Knuckle Sandwich Combo
Given that this story just keeps getting curiouser and curiouser I wouldn't be surprised if we learn that Elizabeth Smart is pregnant.
25 posted on 03/15/2003 5:11:20 AM PST by hillsborofox (Question Abortion.)
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To: hillsborofox
I wouldn't be surprised if we learn that Elizabeth Smart is pregnant.

Pure speculation on your part, of course, but what if she was? Would it matter to you? Should she have an abortion or carry this baby to term?

26 posted on 03/15/2003 5:16:12 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: Knuckle Sandwich Combo
Amazing to me how a modernday prophet speaks with the Kings English from 1611.
27 posted on 03/15/2003 5:16:45 AM PST by ImFree
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To: ImFree
Amazing to me how a modernday prophet speaks with the Kings English from 1611.

Even better--he wrote his manifesto on a computer.

28 posted on 03/15/2003 5:18:29 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: Catspaw
I never knew prophets stole, got drunk, and kidnapped little girls. What a freak.
29 posted on 03/15/2003 5:23:51 AM PST by Manic_Episode
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To: Knuckle Sandwich Combo
In an interview with his kids and stepkids last night on Larry Kingm one of his stepsons said he also killed their pet dog for a strange reason.
30 posted on 03/15/2003 5:24:35 AM PST by sweetliberty ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: sirchtruth
Not only did Joseph Smith practice polygamy ( I forget right off how many wives he had, but I believe it was in excess of 20), but he also married the wives of other men while they were away on "missions".
31 posted on 03/15/2003 5:30:54 AM PST by sweetliberty ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: sirchtruth
This guy and Joseph Simth were cut from the same clothe except JS had no screens to worry about and to my knowledge did not endorse polygamy.

Um, Joseph Smith had upwards of 50 wives: http://www.ldshistory.net/pc/jswives/jswives.htm

32 posted on 03/15/2003 5:33:04 AM PST by Lib Buster
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To: sirchtruth
Just found a reference that states that Smith had 33 wives. But he did denounce polygamy...conveniently it was once he was threatened by the law, as so many "divine" prophecies of Mormonism were altered.
33 posted on 03/15/2003 5:34:17 AM PST by sweetliberty ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: Manic_Episode
I never knew prophets stole, got drunk, and kidnapped little girls. What a freak.

He's got two restraining orders against him, one from his 2nd wife (he's had three, with Wanda being his most current wife) and one from his mother. From what I've seen on the cable news shows, he's sexually molested two of his step-daughters (from marriages #1 & #2). He walked out on his own kids and, from what I've seen & read, did some fairly bizarre things while he was with them. His first wife said he wasn't crazy, but this is all a con, and I'm beginning to believe he's not mentally ill, but used this prophet business as a dodge.

34 posted on 03/15/2003 5:36:28 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: Thebaddog
Had Ed not "loved" that camera so much, Elizabeth would not be home now!
35 posted on 03/15/2003 5:39:22 AM PST by twigs
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To: twigs
Had Ed not "loved" that camera so much, Elizabeth would not be home now!

You're right. The publicity helped keep the case in the public eye, and it was two members of the public that spotted "Emmanuel," his wife and Elizabeth Smart on the streets and called 911--one saw his picture in the newspaper and the other saw him profiled on America's Most Wanted.

36 posted on 03/15/2003 5:42:46 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: Knuckle Sandwich Combo; Bacon Man; Hap
Hephzibah Eladah Isaiah would NOT be a good name for a band.
37 posted on 03/15/2003 5:43:48 AM PST by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Catspaw
Interesting. If he's not mentally ill, then he probably knew more about what he was doing to Elizabeth psychologically than I had thought. I had just assumed that the "brainwashing" was a byproduct of the kidnapping and sexual abuse. I also think that his religious manifesto is just a cover, a justification, for his lust.

BTW, do you have any idea how he could have known about Jessica Wright?

38 posted on 03/15/2003 5:45:20 AM PST by twigs
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To: Manic_Episode
I recall one named Moe Ham Head (or something like that) who had similar proclivities.
39 posted on 03/15/2003 5:45:48 AM PST by Knuckle Sandwich Combo
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To: sirchtruth
The truth of the matter is I doubt most Mormons even know their own church history.

Polygamy was practiced by Abraham also and others in Judaism. It doesn't matter what people call themselves or what they were ---if these types are excommunicated by the Mormon Church then they aren't Mormons because being excommunicated means that. He could call himself a Roman Catholic but that wouldn't mean he is one.

40 posted on 03/15/2003 5:47:11 AM PST by FITZ
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