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War By Proxy: Why We Can't Fight Our Mortal Enemies
http://toogoodreports.com/column/general/stix/20030316-fss.htm ^ | 16 March 2003 | Nicholas Stix

Posted on 03/14/2003 9:49:24 AM PST by mrustow

Toogood Reports [Weekender, March 16, 2003; 12:01 a.m. EST]
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The closer we get to extending the War on Terror to an Iraqi front, the more frequently I have been coming across strong anti-war arguments. Not surprisingly, the arguments have largely been from conservatives of the group referred to in some circles as paleo-conservatives, with some coming from libertarians. (I say, "some circles," because in most circles they are ignored.) The articles that since 911 have essentially said, "Praise the Proposition Nation, and pass the ammunition," have all come from folks who are known as "neo-conservatives." At least since 911, the neocons have been spoiling for a fight against ... well, the world, and certainly the Islamic world.

(Paleocons, who are politically marginalized, are localists who believe in states' rights vs. Leviathan; are highly critical of the notion of "civil rights"; seek to limit or put a moratorium on immigration, and deport illegals; champion an isolationist foreign policy; are no fans of Israel; and seek the preservation of a uniquely American identity and culture. Leading paleocon writers include Paul Craig Roberts, Sam Francis, Steve Sailer, Pat Buchanan, Charley Reese, Paul Gottfried, Chilton Williamson and Thomas Fleming.

Conversely, neocons are politically connected globalists, who think that Leviathan is great, if it can be made to serve "our side"; they support "civil rights"; are pro-immigration; champion a radically interventionist foreign policy; love Israel; and think that being an American comes down to supporting certain philosophical propositions, regardless of whether one was born and raised in Tennessee or Timbuktu. Among the most influential neocons are writers Mark Steyn, Charles Krauthammer, George Will, David Horowitz, Bill Kristol, Jonah Goldberg, Heather MacDonald and Victor Davis Hanson, and Undersecretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz and defense advisor Richard Perle.)

The most humorous argument I've seen against attacking Iraq, came from Glenn Jackson, the founder of the American Reformation Project. Jackson cited conditions that would support our attacking Iraq:

Jackson is of course talking about the Saudis, who attacked us on 911, who bankroll al Qaeda and terrorist mosques across America, whose agents have been recruiting convicts in American prisons to be terrorists, seeking to infiltrate the U.S. military as chaplains, whose officials have obstructed the pursuit of terrorists on Saudi AND American soil, and who are the proper targets of a war. Jackson argues that our government leaders are too "compromised" to do the right thing.

I'm not so sure about that last point. Granted, I have read of corrupt State Department officials who, while working in Saudi Arabia, have refused to protect American citizens and American interests, because they knew that betraying their country would issue in cushy, Saudi-financed jobs. But I don't think that's the real reason we are going to attack the "wrong" country.

On 911, the Sword of Islam pierced America, murdering almost 3,000 people. It is not a matter of choice whether America goes to war against Islam; on 911, Islam declared war on America.

Leading neocons (and Evangelical Gary Bauer) reacted to 911, unfortunately, by signing an open letter, calling on President Bush to go to war with Afghanistan and Iraq, and likely Iran and Syria down the road. (And Jews are supposed to be so smart!) It's one thing for an individual columnist to call on America to invade Islamic countries, and force them to convert to Christianity, as Ann Coulter did, and quite another for an influential group of 41 people, including some with close ties to the White House (e.g., Richard Perle and Frank Gaffney) to do so. The only good thing to come out of such foolishness, was that President Bush was able to present himself as the "good cop" by not only ignoring the letter, but by publicly praying with Moslem terrorists. (And Bush is supposed to be so dumb!)

The neocons' newest talking points philosophy, from that sage of situation ethics, William Kristol, has us pursuing an "idealpolitik," in the phrase used by blogger Josh Chafetz, a morality-based foreign policy, of "liberating" the Iraqi people and spreading the gospel of democracy to the Middle East. But the legitimate basis for a war on Iraq is not America's desire to bully the world and spread her empire, with or without the neocons' phony, sanctimonious moralism. It is America's survival.

We will not be establishing a democracy in Iraq, or any other Arab nation — as opposed to say, a military protectorate — or "liberating" the Iraqi or any other Arab people, because, as Zev Chafets has pointed out repeatedly, Arabs hate freedom and democracy down to their bones, and will not abide it. "No Arab society anywhere has ever manifested the slightest desire for freedom as we understand it.

"Arab students demonstrate for more state and religious repression, not less. Arab crowds march for war, not peace. Arab leaders like Jordan's first King Abdullah and Egyptian President Anwar Sadat are assassinated because they are considered too liberal, not too harsh."

"The Iraqis have their own reasons for wanting to do away with Saddam. His family, tribe, sect and faction have ruled them ruthlessly and stolen them blind. Now they would like the chance to murder Saddam's family, tribe and faction - and enrich themselves. This is the pattern of what is known as modern Arab political reform. There is no other."

American foreign policy must protect America's vital interests. That is a dangerous enough business, without indulging in fantasies of bettering the world.

We won't be attacking our mortal enemy, which is responsible for 911, because Saudi Arabia is the capital of what my colleague, Alan Caruba, calls Islam, bloody Islam, and attacking it now would unify one billion Moslems against us. But if other measures fail, if toppling Saddam fails to put the fear of Allah into the Saudis, we may yet have to do just that. But for now, we will fight a proxy war, with Saddam standing in for the house of Saud.

Note that, apparently unbeknownst to the socialist, mainstream media, and the paleo, alternative media alike, the proxy war actually began 12 years ago, and has continued ever since, against a dictator who, if we do not end things now, will soon be trading in Samoud missiles for nuclear missiles.

Next column: Our Enemy is in the Sand.

To comment on this article or express your opinion directly to the author, you are invited to e-mail Nicholas at adddda@earthlink.net .


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1 posted on 03/14/2003 9:49:24 AM PST by mrustow
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To: mrustow
And now, the real reason:

Contradicting Some U.S. Officials, 3 Scientists Call Anthrax Powder High-Grade

2 posted on 03/14/2003 9:53:02 AM PST by The Great Satan (Revenge, Terror and Extortion: A Guide for the Perplexed)
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To: mrustow
Saudi Arabia is our Enemy bump.
3 posted on 03/14/2003 9:54:20 AM PST by dagnabbit
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To: The Great Satan
Saudi Arabia is our ally bump.
4 posted on 03/14/2003 9:55:10 AM PST by The Great Satan (Revenge, Terror and Extortion: A Guide for the Perplexed)
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To: The Great Satan
Gotta love the final line in that story:

"But if they have indeed perfected the aerosolization process," Dr. Zelicoff said of the terrorists, "it's strongly suggested they can do large-scale dissemination when they wish."

Still amazing that no intrepid or greedy journalist or publication, eager to make it big time, has gone with a full expose - even just on the possibility and implication of an Iraqi connection to the anthrax.

And can you recall a story, or a Newsweek cover photo (Colin and the vial), less commented on?

5 posted on 03/14/2003 10:00:34 AM PST by Wordsmith
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To: The Great Satan
Saudi Arabia is the Great Satan bump
6 posted on 03/14/2003 10:00:54 AM PST by joesnuffy
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To: mrustow
No Arab society anywhere has ever manifested the slightest desire for freedom as we understand it.

Are the Kurds Arabs? If so, one has to ignore what's been going on in Iraqi Kurdistan for the last ten years.

But in a broader sense, You have to question the truthfulness of any such generalization. All we really know about the Arbas is that those inclined to political action [an power-wielding] so far have been hostile to the idea.

That doesn't mean it really holds for all Arabs. Iraq might be the best testing ground: it has been largely secular, wealthy, and well-educated. We shall see...

7 posted on 03/14/2003 10:01:21 AM PST by FredZarguna
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To: dagnabbit
Bumpbackatcha!
8 posted on 03/14/2003 10:05:46 AM PST by mrustow
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To: mrustow
Amazing how he easy over-simplification is, especially when you ignore the demonstrations by those in S.A. who love the West.
9 posted on 03/14/2003 10:06:59 AM PST by Democratic_Machiavelli
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To: Wordsmith
And can you recall a story, or a Newsweek cover photo (Colin and the vial), less commented on?

Only the arrest of the author of 9/11 and every major attack on the US since the end of the Gulf War, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

Some times, you just don't want to go there. What you might find is too inconvenient, or too distateful.

10 posted on 03/14/2003 10:08:40 AM PST by The Great Satan (Revenge, Terror and Extortion: A Guide for the Perplexed)
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11 posted on 03/14/2003 10:10:54 AM PST by mrustow
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12 posted on 03/14/2003 10:13:09 AM PST by mrustow
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13 posted on 03/14/2003 10:14:22 AM PST by mrustow
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To: mrustow
But the legitimate basis for a war on Iraq is not America's desire to bully the world and spread her empire, with or without the neocons' phony, sanctimonious moralism. It is America's survival.

True, but when you're fighting for survival, you can make good use of sanctimonious moralism. Heck, you embrace it, if it'll help.

14 posted on 03/14/2003 11:31:35 AM PST by browardchad
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15 posted on 03/14/2003 11:59:30 AM PST by mrustow
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To: browardchad
But the people engaging in the sanctimony aren't thinking about survival, they're thinking about world conquest.
16 posted on 03/14/2003 12:05:19 PM PST by mrustow
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17 posted on 03/14/2003 12:06:23 PM PST by mrustow
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18 posted on 03/14/2003 12:07:07 PM PST by mrustow
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19 posted on 03/14/2003 12:07:52 PM PST by mrustow
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20 posted on 03/14/2003 12:08:52 PM PST by mrustow
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