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PUERTO RICO: Engineers At Base Say Navy Will Shutter All Ceiba Facilities (4,000 JOBS LOST!)
The San Juan Star | Wednesday, March 12, 2003 | BY EVA LLORENS VELEZ

Posted on 03/12/2003 4:13:40 PM PST by 4Freedom

Three engineers who work for the Navy predicted Tuesday that the Naval Station Roosevelt Roads in Ceiba will be shut down entirely.

Three instrumentation engineers - Juan Lugo, Angel Ramos and Miguel Sierra - disagreed with Vieques Commissioner Juan Fernandez and Ceiba Mayor Antonio Cruz, who maintained the base will not be shut down because the Navy is investing money to restore and purchase equipment for the facility.

The three who work with the Atlantic Fleet Weapons Training Facility, a Navy division whose main function is to provide Navy training, were notified that as of Sept. 30, they will no longer have jobs when the AFWTF shuts down. The dismantling of operations began Monday.

The shutdown of AFWTF, which has long been known, stems from the closing of the target range in Vieques. The engineers said the AFWTF comprises only 20 percent of the operations at the base.

The closing of those functions has led to conflicting information about whether the base as a whole will shutdown. After certifying the Navy will officially leave the Vieques range in May, Adm. Robert Natter, chief of the Atlantic Fleet, recommended Roosevelt Roads be shut down entirely. Nevertheless, the shutdown won't be contemplated at least until Congress takes up a new round of base closings in 2005.

Navy officials at Roosevelt Roads could not be reached Tuesday for comment.

Testifying before the House Labor Committee, Ramos pointed out Tuesday the other operations that could still go on at the base, noting the base has a training facility in St. Croix which has underwater microphones which would be difficult to move.

It also has over 200,000 square feet in sea and air space for training that supports maneuvers.

"These are geographic installations that are here...Right now they are conducting studies to find out how they can do these maneuvers in the East Coast of the United States and are having a difficult time," he said.

He said that along the East Coast, ships must either go too close to the coast, which would pose safety hazards, or go out to the sea where they don't have the instrumentation system to detect.

The three engineers told lawmakers Tuesday that the closing of the base has occurred rapidly.

Lugo said that Natter began the first phase of the closing Sunday, which entails the dismantling of equipment to operate AFWTF.

By Sept. 30, two main base commands - one that trains the Atlantic Fleet and the VC-8, which provides support - will be eliminated. He said federal employees have already been told they would be laid off as of Sept. 30. Another agency, the Naval Southern Command, has begun to move operations to the United States, they said.

They estimated that as of Sept. 30, 350 civilian and 470 military jobs will be lost.

The second stage of the shutdown entails notifying 22 federal and state agencies to move to other facilities by 2005. That will lead to phase 3, which consists of the shutdown of base schools, a hospital and the PX, they said.

At the end of the shutdown, around 4,000 jobs will be lost in Puerto Rico, Lugo said. The U.S. Virgin Islands also faces losses in contracts.

In addition, Lugo said, the Navy will likely place the base under a caretaker status instead of handing over the land and facilities to Puerto Rico.

"That means the Navy will keep a minimum of facilities and operations just in case it decides to reopen the base," he said.

Ana Angelet Frau, head of the American Federation of Government Workers, agreed with Lugo's statements. She said the possible closure could also result in the dismantling of operations at other Caribbean facilities, and will cost $400 million in taxpayer money.

Frau said the government will also face the loss of an airline radar located at Pico del Este.

"This radar is used to guide air traffic 60 miles away from Puerto Rico, a distance that cannot be covered by the control tower in Isla Verde," she said, adding that "the virtual destruction of this radar will be a blow to airline travel and cause delays."


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ceiba; closing; ingrates; navalbase; panderers; puertorico; rooseveltroads
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This is great news America! Over 4,000 jobs and $400 MILLION U.S. TAXPAYER'S DOLLARS each year are coming home!!!

Let's keep this rolling. There are 1,000s more federal and private sector jobs and BILLIONS more U.S. Taxpayer's dollars to bring home from Puerto Rico!

1 posted on 03/12/2003 4:13:40 PM PST by 4Freedom
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To: 4Freedom
After certifying the Navy will officially leave the Vieques range in May, Adm. Robert Natter, chief of the Atlantic Fleet, recommended Roosevelt Roads be shut down entirely.

In other words, since the Riqueños objected to military tests, we're just gonna pack up and leave. What's that you say, PR? Losing jobs? No sailors to buy your goods? Too bad. You can enjoy your moral so-called superiority in the unemployment line.

2 posted on 03/12/2003 4:23:42 PM PST by petuniasevan (cogito, ergo spud: I think, therefore I yam...)
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To: 4Freedom
This is just a crying shame. </sarcasm>
3 posted on 03/12/2003 4:26:44 PM PST by Earl B.
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To: petuniasevan
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch.

Iron men,
Swift ships.
GO NAVY!
4 posted on 03/12/2003 4:29:10 PM PST by TheJollyRoger (George W. Bush for president in 2004....AGAIN!)
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To: 4Freedom
If they don't want the bombing range, then they shouldn't mind us closing down these other facilities either.
5 posted on 03/12/2003 4:30:09 PM PST by Jhoffa_ (Yes, there is sexual tension between Sammy & Frodo.)
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To: petuniasevan
Don't ya just love it, and give those officers a big high-5 for standing for the right thing to do.Too bad PR, eat sand.
6 posted on 03/12/2003 4:34:01 PM PST by lefty4w (Right takes might..)
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To: petuniasevan
Maybe they should call Rev's. Al and Jessie, Martin and Robert Jr. for support after the Navy says bye-bye.
7 posted on 03/12/2003 4:35:48 PM PST by bigfootbob
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To: petuniasevan
The street corners are going to be crowded with 4,000 more street vendors selling bottles of water, donuts and avocados.

Somebody should have told them to be careful what they wish for. The U.S. Taxpayers just might give it to them.

8 posted on 03/12/2003 4:45:20 PM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: Earl B.
Yeah, I think Admiral Natter was all broken up about it, too. ;^)
9 posted on 03/12/2003 4:46:52 PM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: Jhoffa_
Somebody should have told the little Marxists about unintended consequences.
10 posted on 03/12/2003 4:48:14 PM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: 4Freedom
I think Turkey & France are about to get some instruction in that area..
11 posted on 03/12/2003 4:49:21 PM PST by Jhoffa_ (Yes, there is sexual tension between Sammy & Frodo.)
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To: 4Freedom
Three instrumentation engineers - Juan Lugo, Angel Ramos and Miguel Sierra - disagreed with Vieques Commissioner Juan Fernandez and Ceiba Mayor Antonio Cruz, who maintained the base will not be shut down because the Navy is investing money to restore and purchase equipment for the facility.

The surest sign that the military is shutting down a base is a massive construction spree. Sounds like Roosy Roads is history.

12 posted on 03/12/2003 4:55:40 PM PST by AlaskaErik
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To: Jhoffa_; lefty4w; bigfootbob
Has anybody seen a copy of National Geographic this month? Evidently, one of their writers went to Puerto Rico and told some of the truth about what he saw.

The article has Puerto Rico's politicians and Tourism Board fit to be tied.

LOL!

13 posted on 03/12/2003 4:59:55 PM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: 4Freedom
See Ya!
14 posted on 03/12/2003 5:03:43 PM PST by TADSLOS (Sua Sponte)
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To: AlaskaErik
I hope they shut down Fort Buchanan and Camp Santiago next.

They can bring all those thousands of jobs and all those hundreds of millions of dollars home, too.

15 posted on 03/12/2003 5:05:50 PM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: 4Freedom
It'll be harder to argue that the United States is craving after empire if we pull out of Puerto Rico.
16 posted on 03/12/2003 5:06:14 PM PST by JoeSchem
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To: 4Freedom
please give me a hint?
17 posted on 03/12/2003 5:07:10 PM PST by grammymoon
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To: Earl B.; petuniasevan; All
Anybody see an article about Puerto Rico in National Geographic this month?

It must have been truthful, because their politicians didn't like it. ;^)

18 posted on 03/12/2003 5:08:25 PM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: TADSLOS
Wouldn't want to be ya!
19 posted on 03/12/2003 5:09:29 PM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: 4Freedom
Isn't it time to cut the umbilical cord, the apron strings, whatever, and let PR go off on its own? They apparently feel that they are ready for this, kicking the Navy off that island, and taking control of their own lives. More power to them!

Classic "cut off your nose to spite your face" moment!!

Maybe they could take the more virulent Hollywood pukes off our hands and set up a little Hollywood" for themselves to bring in some money. Kill two birds with one stone.....

20 posted on 03/12/2003 5:10:07 PM PST by SpinyNorman
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