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Partial Birth Abortion-live thread at senate
www.cspan.org ^ | 3/10/03 | VRWC_minion

Posted on 03/10/2003 4:16:02 PM PST by VRWC_minion

I was surprised to see debate occuring on senate floor regarding partial birth abortion.


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To: MHGinTN
BTTT!!!!!
101 posted on 03/11/2003 12:05:20 PM PST by E.G.C.
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Bttt
102 posted on 03/11/2003 12:06:50 PM PST by firewalk
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To: VRWC_minion
Just a reminder of PBA debate happening today. Frist giving great info from a physician's opinion.
103 posted on 03/11/2003 12:13:09 PM PST by swheats
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To: VRWC_minion
More children die every day by "choice" than were killed on 9.11. The Democrats are The Party of Death to American tiny little children. They should be voted out of office for their heartlessness and abuse of children.
104 posted on 03/11/2003 2:08:32 PM PST by victim soul
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Does anybody know of ANY woman who's EVER had a partial birth abortion because their life was at stake? Since when do you need to forcibly choke a baby, OUTSIDE OF THE WOMB, to save the life of a mother?! What complete and utter BULLCRAP nonsense!


105 posted on 03/11/2003 2:17:39 PM PST by diamond6
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To: MHGinTN
Thanks for the ping, Marvin. Please, keep me posted.
106 posted on 03/11/2003 7:08:41 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul; victim soul; carenot; Coleus; Polycarp; toenail; RnMomof7; Diamond
I listened (incredulously at first) to Durbin try and place an alternative to this sensible bill, an alternative that would 'ban all third trimester abortions on viable fetuses', but without defining viability, allowing the abortionist to determine the issue of viability as weighed against the 'risk to a woman's health should the pregnancy continue'. ALL pregnancies carry risk, so the door is left wide open with Durbin's specious 'alternative'.

What was sad was to listen to a Republican New England Senator support this misdirection ploy that so clearly makes toothless a halt to this evil method for killing babies!

It borders on demonic complicity to present a ruse alternative so clearly designed to continue the shedding of innocent blood in the name of 'empowering women', for democrat votes.

Senator Santorum shredded the faulty reasoning, exposing the paradoxical assertion by Durbin and Boxer that Murray's bill or Durbin's bill were presented as a means to protect women's health and wellbeing. Thank God for men like Dewine and Santorum standing up to at least begin taking back the horrific slope of abortion on demand and this particular slaughter method.

There was a beautiful presentation by Senator Michael Enzi, in which he told the true story of his daughter born very prematurely (at six months gestational age) more than thirty years ago. He told in tearful (for me and it appeared for him also) wonder the story of his daughters struggle for survival. The moving tribute to his tiny daughter's struggle and success (she's now a teacher!) gave graphic weight to the nearly inspoken issue in all of this, that these tiny babies now being slaughtered with partial birth infanticide are living, individual human beings. His daughter survived so many years ago, and presently our medical wonders so much more able to overcome the immense battles she faced and overcame made a stark contrast to the inveigling slime of the democrat arguments.

To kill these little ones when they are viable to live beyond the uterus exposes the democrat defense of the indefensible. But Durbin, Boxer, Murray, Lautenberg, Harkin, et al, continue to try and obfuscate the truth and misdirect attention to specious ploys they so craftily raise. Despicable is all that I could think after listening to Senator Enzi's story then hearing Durbin spin and dissemble, in his efforts to use the death of innocent babies as a means for democrat political gain.

The democrats who will vote against this ban (on a hideous killing method) have lost their souls and are worthy only for contempt. May God have mercy on them ... I cannot abide them any longer.

107 posted on 03/11/2003 8:34:17 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
I spent all day in meetings. What happened?
108 posted on 03/11/2003 10:00:27 PM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US.)
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To: MHGinTN
Thanks so much for the update, Marvin.

The democrats who will vote against this ban (on a hideous killing method) have lost their souls and are worthy only for contempt. May God have mercy on them ... I cannot abide them any longer.

You're absolutely right.

109 posted on 03/11/2003 10:37:50 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: hocndoc
There were two diversionary offerings to the Bill S-3. One came from Patty Murray that was defeated, a second came from Dick Durbin and I don't think it has been voted upon yet, perhaps tomorrow morning.

Essentially (I'm sorry, but I am quite tired), the democrats are seeking to nullify this challenge to the absolute right to choose any killing method for dealing with the unborn. Of course, all under the specious guise of addressing protection for women's right to choose for their health reasons. No matter how much evidentiary material is put forward to expose the lies in this regard, the democrat press ever onward, I suspect, in an effort to mollify the radical constituencies demanding an all-out effort to stop this 'perceived' threat to Roe v Wade. Of course, even this specious assertion by Boxer was crushed into the lying muck of which it was composed; Dr. Frist explained how this 'procedure' is NEVER a medical necessity, never an emergency methodology since it requires two to three days to accomplish as practiced by the current crop of serial killing general practitioners, and the bill seeks to ban only the precise method of killing, defined in exquisite detail and therefore strictly limited to that procedure alone.

There will, I suspect, be more of the same misdirection and dissembling offered on Wednesday, with perhaps as many as three or more alternative suggested legislations that will seek to do the same nullification intended by the first two. The final vote count will be of extreme import for the 2004 election cycle. It is a start at restricting the holocaust, a very meager start.

110 posted on 03/11/2003 10:55:57 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: hocndoc
I'm you missed it, HERE'S a link to an FR thread with a good overview, though somewhat biased to 'alleged'.
111 posted on 03/11/2003 11:18:25 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: PatrickHenry
It's sort of like the drug laws. They don't really have any authority over that either. It would be better to overturn Roe.

Abortiontv.com

112 posted on 03/11/2003 11:30:09 PM PST by Dec31,1999 (<a href="http://www.abortiontv.com">Abortiontv.com</a>)
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To: Dec31,1999
It's sort of like the drug laws. They don't really have any authority over that either. It would be better to overturn Roe.

Yes, drug laws, abortion laws, clone laws, day care laws, seat belt laws, health care laws, all kinds of unConstitutional laws. Why?

Consider that back in the Wilson administration, at least they knew they had to amend the Constitution (income tax, prohibition) to expand the short list of federal powers . Then came FDR. At first the Supreme Court tossed out his bizarre legislation. But after his famous "court packing" episode, they caved and accepted everything. Now, as a legacy of those times, we nave NO Constitutional limitations on federal power. Well, the courts still recognized the Bill of Rights (sometimes), but it never occurs to them that there were only a very few powers which were given to Congress.

113 posted on 03/12/2003 3:53:13 AM PST by PatrickHenry (The universe is made for life, therefore ID. Life can't arise naturally, therefore ID.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Now, as a legacy of those times, we nave NO Constitutional limitations on federal power.

My point exactly. If Roe is overturned, the several states will have the power to adjudicate abortion laws as each sees fit.

114 posted on 03/12/2003 11:44:35 PM PST by Dec31,1999 (Abortiontv.com)
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To: VRWC_minion; StriperSniper
This is BACK ON for today @ 10:30


for Tuesday, October 21, 2003

9:30 a.m.: Convene and begin a period of morning business.

10:30 a.m.: Begin consideration of the conference report to accompany S. 3, the Partial- Birth Abortion Ban Act.

Thereafter, resume consideration of the motion to proceed to S. 1751, the Class Action Fairness Act.

115 posted on 10/21/2003 7:18:29 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA
Bump.
116 posted on 10/21/2003 7:19:02 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA
Thanks for the ping! Will be busy for a while, will check in later.

Have a great day!

117 posted on 10/21/2003 7:21:41 AM PDT by StriperSniper (All this, of course, is simply pious fudge. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Howlin; Green; Mo1; TLBSHOW; MHGinTN

FYI

PBA debate will be brought up again today.

Don't think we need a new thread continuing this one seems logical.
118 posted on 10/21/2003 7:26:26 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: cpforlife.org
Ping..............This is Back on For 10:30 Today (10-21)
119 posted on 10/21/2003 7:33:08 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Howlin; Green; Mo1; TLBSHOW; MHGinTN; cpforlife.org

4 Hrs of debate on this, Sandtourm is up now.
120 posted on 10/21/2003 7:42:11 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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