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Democratic Hopefuls Find Antiwar Minefield in Iowa
The New York Times ^ | 03/09/2003 (for editions of 03/10/2003 | Adam Nagourney

Posted on 03/09/2003 6:41:42 PM PST by GeneD

SIOUX CITY, Iowa, March 9 — Representative Richard A. Gephardt of Missouri came here today for a thoughtful Sunday morning living room conversation with Iowa Democrats about the issues of his emerging presidential campaign: education, health care and pension.

But for 25 minutes, Mr. Gephardt was badgered about his support for President Bush's Iraq policy in a tense session that finally ended when the local Democratic chairman said Mr. Gephardt was running behind schedule. In an instant, Mr. Gephardt was out of the room headed to his next stop.

Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts came to Iowa on Saturday to give a speech in Des Moines about women's issues. But he arrived to the shouts of antiwar demonstrators, and a meeting with local Democrats turned into an anguished discussion about what was taking place in Washington and Iraq and Mr. Kerry's support for the Iraq resolution passed by Congress last October.

Even Howard Dean, the former Vermont governor who has repeatedly presented himself as the antiwar candidate to what Democrats said has been notable success here, expressed frustration at what he encountered as he tried to talk about farm prices on Friday.

"I had a press conference and it was all about the war," Dr. Dean said. "And finally I said, `Would anybody like to talk about the enormous jump in the unemployment rate that was announced in the morning papers?' "

With the nation readying for a possible war, Democratic presidential candidates in Iowa this weekend got a taste of the complicated new world that presumably awaits them this spring — a world of trying to campaign for president at a time of a war, or a near-war, that has captured the attention of the nation while sowing ideological divisions within the Democratic party and among the candidates.

The coming weeks or months are shaping up as a period of American presidential campaign history unlike any since perhaps 1944, when Thomas E. Dewey found himself in the unenviable position of campaigning against Franklin Delano Roosevelt as Roosevelt sought a fourth term during World War II.

By contrast, in 1968 during the Vietnam War the fighting was so far engaged and judged by so many Americans to be a failure that two candidates built their campaigns entirely on an antiwar platform.

Beyond the loss of attention being paid to Democratic candidates who were not drawing a lot of attention to begin with, the campaigns are now struggling with crucial decisions about what is appropriate to do or say if the United Sates goes to war, with some considering whether to suspend public campaigning.

The Democrats are considering these questions with the expectation that what takes place over the next two months could be critical in setting the framework for the election of 2004 by determining the extent to which Mr. Bush is able to command the issue of national security. It has put four candidates — the members of Congress who backed the Iraq resolution in Congress last fall — in the difficult position of finding their own immediate campaign prospects linked, at least to some extent, to Mr. Bush's decisions and a possible war that they at least initially approved.

And members of Congress, including six of the Democratic presidential contenders, are going to be under pressure to stay close to Washington so they are not perceived as neglecting the nation's business.

Campaign advisers to all the major candidates said they believed it would be foolhardy to criticize Mr. Bush on his Iraq policy if hostilities began, and some suggested that criticizing Mr. Bush on domestic issues during a war could carry the risk of being portrayed as unpatriotic.

Advisers to Senator Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut, who has been the most consistently pro-war candidate in the Democratic field, said he was not sure how much time he would spend campaigning if the nation went to war, and they spoke with frustration about the uncertainty of current events.

"Can somebody tell me what day it's going to start?" asked Mr. Lieberman's campaign manager, Craig Smith. "You know it's out there, and you know it's looming, and it's like 10 days from now, should we schedule a big boisterous rally? I'm not sure that's a smart thing to do."

The candidates are struggling with the question of what they can say. In recent days Mr. Kerry, in defending his vote in favor of the Iraq resolution, has been criticizing Mr. Bush for what Mr. Kerry suggested was a rush to war. The senator said in an interview in Des Moines that such comments would cease should fighting begin.

"When the war begins, if the war begins, I support the troops and I support the United States of America winning as rapidly as possible," he said. "When the troops are in the field and fighting — if they're in the field and fighting — remembering what it's like to be those troops, I think they need a unified America that is prepared to win."

By contrast, Dr. Dean, who acknowledged that his fortunes in Iowa had been lifted by the perception that he is more antiwar than many of his opponents, stopped short when asked what he would say if there was a war.

"You know, I don't know the answer to that yet," he said, while campaigning through eastern Iowa on Friday. "Certainly I'm going to support Americans kids that are sent over there. Obviously, I'm going to wish everybody well. You know, you root for your country."

Several Iowans who said they opposed the war said they were uncomfortable with the idea of Democratic candidates criticizing Mr. Bush's war policy when Americans troops were in the field.

"I think they should support Bush," said Mary Agnew, who lives near Amana. "It gives all the Arab countries the wrong idea that we are vulnerable."

If there is any silver lining to this for the candidates, it is that an imposed blackout on public appearances leaves time for private fund-raising by candidates, and this happens to be the time that they are under extraordinary pressure to get to their telephones. March 31 is the end of the first quarter of fund-raising.

The four Democrats who were in Iowa this weekend — Representative Dennis J. Kucinich of Ohio was the fourth — represent a cross-section of candidate opinion on the war, and they were campaigning in a state where antiwar sentiment among Democrats runs high. Their travels provided them with abundant reminders of how times had changed. When Dr. Dean showed up for lunch at the Ox Yoke Inn in Amana, Iowans who had come to see him were quietly gathered around a television set watching the proceedings at United Nations Security Council.

And the questions they encountered were usually about Iraq. Mr. Gephardt saw that at his first stop of the day as he was loudly and repeatedly challenged by Democrats in the living room of Chris Jensen, who before Mr. Gephardt arrived had said he was upset with the war policies of his guest.

Mr. Gephardt wanted to talk about his plan for universal health care and pension portability, but this audience had no interest in that.

"I feel like I'm on a bus and Bush is driving and I'm looking back and I'm thinking, `Who gave him the key?' " said Brad Kollars, 53, a lawyer from Sioux City, staring intently at Mr. Gephardt.

Mr. Gephardt repeatedly defended voting in favor of the Iraq resolution in Congress, invoking the image of "an A-bomb in a Ryder truck" planted by terrorists killing hundreds of thousands of citizens in a major American city, as he applauded Mr. Bush's goals while criticizing his style.

"I didn't vote for him, and I would never vote for him," Mr. Gephardt said. "The problem we've got is he is the president of the United States."

"As a leader of Congress," Mr. Gephardt said, "I felt an obligation to try to help him keep the people safe."

Mr. Kerry said in an interview that he had no regrets about voting in favor of the Iraq resolution, but said that in implementing it, Mr. Bush had "butchered what ought to be straightforward and very important diplomacy."

Mr. Kerry's explanations left at least some Democrats here a little frustrated.

"I'd like to hear something stronger from Congress," said Barbara Boatwright, a longtime Polk County Democratic activist who sternly pressed Mr. Kerry on his vote. "I wish we'd have an outcry and protest from Democratic members of Congress."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: denniskucinich; dickgephardt; georgewbush; howarddean; iowa; iraq; joelieberman; johnkerry; saddamhussein
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1 posted on 03/09/2003 6:41:43 PM PST by GeneD
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To: GeneD
This ludicrous group of low-lifes and lawyers, in their $3000 suits, is not qualified to run an honest 6th grade student government.
2 posted on 03/09/2003 6:51:54 PM PST by friendly
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To: GeneD
There are so many quotes here that deserve a wisecrack I can't possibly know where to begin!

The Dims in a dither. Nobody will tell them when the war is coming or when to do what. Should they campaign or not? Put up or shut up? It's easy to understand their liberal dilemma.

BWAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAA!!!


Prairie

3 posted on 03/09/2003 6:54:23 PM PST by prairiebreeze ("We won't deny, ignore or pass our problems along to other Presidents" --GWBush)
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To: GeneD
And members of Congress, including six of the Democratic presidential contenders, are going to be under pressure to stay close to Washington so they are not perceived as neglecting the nation's business.

So they can stage filibusters of President Bush's judicial nominees.

4 posted on 03/09/2003 6:56:09 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (This space left intentionally blank.)
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To: GeneD
"Who gave him the key?" said Brad Kollars, 53, a lawyer from Sioux City, staring intently at Mr. Gephardt.

The Electoral College members, representing the voted preference of each of the 50 US states. That's who.

A lawyer... that explains part of it.

5 posted on 03/09/2003 6:56:42 PM PST by Prince Caspian (Don't ask if it's risky... Ask if the reward is worth the risk)
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"I think they should support Bush," said Mary Agnew, who lives near Amana. "It gives all the Arab countries the wrong idea that we are vulnerable."

Good thinking Mary, but I'm not sure they care if the Arabs think we're vulnerable. In fact, they may be hoping for another terrorist incident in the U.S. so they can make political hay out of it. How's that strike you Mary?

Sheesh, the anti-war crowd is living in some dream world.

6 posted on 03/09/2003 6:58:57 PM PST by Reagan is King (Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever)
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To: GeneD
"In recent days Mr. Kerry, in defending his vote in favor of the Iraq resolution, has been criticizing Mr. Bush for what Mr. Kerry suggested was a rush to war."

Dems are playing both sides of the fence. If it goes well, they will point to their support of the legislation, the President and / or the troops. If it goes badly, they will have some good sound-bites where they were critical and questioning.

Sadly, the hypocrisy will work. Americans do not have long memories, the press will assist the Dems, and the war will be long over.

Bush will win the war, which is what is critical to the nation. But it is the peace and especially the economy that follows that matters for the politics.

On that score, repeated protectionism and federal bloat do not help. Just last week, tarriffs on Canadian wheat made the Democratic Senators in NDak very happy.

HELLO: Tarriffs are taxes, and harm consumers.

I'll be happy to achieve national security by way of defeating Iraq. But the political battles thereafter will ignore the Iraq success, and we'd better start getting ready for those too.

7 posted on 03/09/2003 7:04:01 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Wheat is Murder! (Tilling slaughters worms.....))
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To: GeneD
Sow the wind and reap the whirlwind. The Democrats have been catering to these middle-aged hippies and self-annointed revolutionaries for decades. Now it's coming back to bite them. No way they can continue to solidify a base that has moved somewhere to the left of Mao while pretending to be "moderate" to the rest of the country.
8 posted on 03/09/2003 7:09:14 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: GeneD
Mr. Gephardt said. "The problem we've got is he is the president of the United States."

Yes, it just sticks in their craw like a bad worm.

"As a leader of Congress," Mr. Gephardt said, "I felt an obligation to try to help him keep the people safe."

One would have thought Mr.G would have referred to himself as an "American" but he is afterall a democrat.

9 posted on 03/09/2003 7:10:50 PM PST by tet68 (Jeremiah 51:24 ..."..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
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To: GeneD
What a dilemma. Please the base, win the primary and lose the election or show some character.

Well, come to think of it, the second option has not been a choice for DemocRats for years.

10 posted on 03/09/2003 7:11:43 PM PST by DeFault User
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To: GeneD
I love it... they created this mess for themselves. If they would just be straight and consistent, they wouldn't have to struggle with how they are going to "play" a current issue. They also stirred up this anti-Bush wave, and it's turning into a rocky ride.

If they had stood with Bush right from the start on Iraq, it might all be over with by now ;-)
11 posted on 03/09/2003 7:21:26 PM PST by Tamzee (There are 10 types of people... those who read binary, and those who don't.)
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To: Cicero
Sow the wind and reap the whirlwind.

Cicero, do you know the source of this old phrase? The Old Testament? Its a curious phrase, almost as if somebody had once done some seeding with iodine and produced a hurricane. Nah.

12 posted on 03/09/2003 7:41:55 PM PST by expatpat
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To: GeneD
Sadly the democrass party doesn't want to understand that they need President Bush to defend and protect their donkey butts just as much as we need him to defend and protect Americans and our Constitution.
13 posted on 03/09/2003 7:45:57 PM PST by harpo11 (I Will Not Forget September 11, 2001....3000 Innocent Americans Murdered by Terrorist Scum)
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"Who gave him the key?" said Brad Kollars, 53, a lawyer from Sioux City, staring intently at Mr. Gephardt.

Oh, I thought he was complaining that the smelly guy got access to the executive washroom.

It's hilarious that the Democrat's playing politics with the war is now biting them in the butt. They can't forthrightly argue the case for removing Saddam, so they have to put up with being badgered by Iowas liberals. This of course is known as the Iowa Plan (all inclusive) for Hell.

14 posted on 03/09/2003 7:52:55 PM PST by Jabba the Nutt
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To: GeneD
They are all DemocRats. What do you expect?
15 posted on 03/09/2003 7:54:55 PM PST by AndrewC
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"I'd like to hear something stronger from Congress," said Barbara Boatwright, a longtime Polk County Democratic activist who sternly pressed Mr. Kerry on his vote. "I wish we'd have an outcry and protest from Democratic members of Congress."

Sure, Barbara - let the Democrats in Congress rise up as one and protest Bush's military and foreign policy on the eve of a major war.

Go for it, Barbara - and guarantee a Republican tial wave come the 2004 elections.

Yea, that's the ticket, Barbara.

16 posted on 03/09/2003 7:59:23 PM PST by spectre
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The Dims in a dither. Nobody will tell them when the war is coming or when to do what.

The surest sign that France, Russia et al will fall into line is the hard tack left of the RATs, now saying that even a UN mandate isn't good enough, because we just "bought off" our Allies.

If this keeps up, 2004 could be another McGovern year for the RATs. I think we should somehow work that into a slogan... something about how the RATs just want "McGovern-ment", or something to that effect. It captures the essence of the '72 fiasco, plus the cheesey image of McDonalds, etc.

17 posted on 03/09/2003 8:06:48 PM PST by XEHRpa
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To: expatpat
Hosea 8:7. For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind: it hath no stalk: the bud shall yield no meal: if so be it yield, the strangers shall swallow it up.
18 posted on 03/09/2003 8:07:32 PM PST by Balding_Eagle
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Thanks, Eagle. I guess it's sourcing is symbolic, not factual, but it made me stop and think.
19 posted on 03/09/2003 8:15:59 PM PST by expatpat
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To: GeneD
I don't understand how even democrat Reps and Sens can be democrats; especially with and ignorant body of people that they pimped into dependence, I would hate to deal with lemmings who run from fad to fad.
20 posted on 03/09/2003 9:00:06 PM PST by Porterville (Screw the grammar, full posting ahead.)
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