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Stocks rise following Bin Laden report
TaipeiTimes/Bloomberg ^ | Sunday, Mar 09, 2003 | Unknown/Bloomberg

Posted on 03/09/2003 1:33:33 AM PST by Pro-Bush

US stocks rose as a report that two sons of Osama bin Laden had been captured triggered a rebound from initial losses.

Share prices fell after the economy unexpectedly lost jobs last month and Intel Corp said first-quarter sales wouldn't meet its highest forecast. They moved higher even though the White House said it couldn't confirm the Associated Press report on the al-Qaeda leader's sons.

"Everything is hinged on anything related to terrorism, bin laden, or Iraq," said Michael O'Hare, head of listed trading at Lehman Brothers Inc, the world's fourth-biggest securities firm. "Any positive piece of news and the market's going to fly."


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: binladen; bloomberg; worldmarkets
Are we getting close to confirming that two sons of Osama bin Laden had been captured, including Saad?
1 posted on 03/09/2003 1:33:33 AM PST by Pro-Bush
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To: Pro-Bush
unlike politicians and news agencies... the markets seldom lie...

ods are, the markets know things we don't yet...
they may be anticipating our crushing of the sadaam regime, and the clarification of how the oil crisis will shake out, now that russia and france know we will splash them if they get in the way...

if we go into Iraq and we will, and if we win quickly... and I believe this is so, the markets will climb atmospherically... starting on day two or three... that is what I expect...
2 posted on 03/09/2003 2:09:52 AM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: Robert_Paulson2
I agree with you... and I just positioned myself to take quick advantage of that expectation (in the rather paltry way I am able to... LOL)
3 posted on 03/09/2003 2:55:48 AM PST by AFPhys
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To: Pro-Bush
It is my general impression that important events will take place over the next 30-60 days.
4 posted on 03/09/2003 4:41:08 AM PST by SamAdams76 (California wine tastes better - boycott French wine!)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
As a market professional I'm afraid I have to tell you that 99% of asset managers don't have the slightest clue what's going on or what they should do. The markets are currently in the hands of hedge funds taking massive bets and program trading. Pension and Mutual money is still sitting on the sidelines.
5 posted on 03/09/2003 4:49:44 AM PST by 12B
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To: Pro-Bush
I just cant understand how they relate to evenjts like this. Who listens to a specific news event (like this) and then goes out and buys stock?

I think the stock market goes up and down randomnly on any given day, and the media picks a good or bad story that day as the 'cause'- implying a cause/effect relationship.

Granted news and stock prices can be related, but I don't like this 'reason of the day' explanation regarding why the stock market rose or fell.

6 posted on 03/09/2003 4:57:45 AM PST by Mr. K (looking for love in all the right places (not left))
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To: Robert_Paulson2
unlike politicians and news agencies... the markets seldom lie

A fool and his money are soon....

Tell me, how does an abstract concept - a market - know something? The only one's who know something are sentient beings, and it is the nature of markets that those sentient beings are human.

When the NASDAQ was flying high on stocks on companies that had not sales and no prospects of sales was the market telling the truth? Or a few months later when it had dropped to a fraction of its original level on those same stocks was it telling the truth?

Or was it just that the market was telling the truth in both cases - that there were a bunch of self-deluded fools out there who were lying to themselves?

Markets fluctuate randomly because of the random flows of money in and out. Most of the reasons put about by market pundits on why the market moves any amount on any particular day are complete and utter BS. A lot of the BS is generated by traders (I mean the big guys who man the desks at the brokerage firms) who would love a stock to move 1/2 a point in their direction so that they can packet their walking around money and call it a day. The BS is then promulgated by the buziness babes on the tele who were cheerleading the made rush over the cliff.

Markets also move, on a longer time-scale because of commonly shared perceptions that become structural in the market - you know, such as the best place to put your money is in a dot.bomb that will never make any money. Soros thesis is that the best way to make money is to identify those structural trends, try to figure out when underlying conditions and crises will cause them to change and bet the other way. You may not like him, but he has become one of the world's wealthiest men off of this point of view.

7 posted on 03/09/2003 5:13:18 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson
Most of the reasons put about by market pundits on why the market moves any amount on any particular day are complete and utter BS. A lot of the BS is generated by traders (I mean the big guys who man the desks at the brokerage firms) who would love a stock to move 1/2 a point in their direction so that they can pocket their walking around money and call it a day.

A lot of it is also because traders have enormous egos. They like to see their names in print, and their faces on CNBC. If Maria Bartiromo calls and asks why the market was up today, and you're honest and say, "How the f--- should I know", she won't be calling you again any time soon.

Market punditry in general is a game played with zero accountability (lucky for the pundits). They know that their livelihood depends on the false idea that the pros know something that the general public doesn't. (Not that a lot of money isn't made with inside information, but the last thing they're going to do is share it with you.)

8 posted on 03/09/2003 7:18:56 AM PST by Stay the course
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To: SamAdams76
It is my general impression that important events will take place over the next 30-60 days.

Your insights are as succinct and incisive as ever. You are truly the master of the un-spin. Thank you! ;-)

9 posted on 03/09/2003 12:07:50 PM PST by Prince Caspian (Don't ask if it's risky... Ask if the reward is worth the risk)
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