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Softly, Kennedys split on Iraq
Cape Cod Times ^ | March 3, 2003 | By JACK COLEMAN

Posted on 03/08/2003 2:57:35 PM PST by metesky

Softly, Kennedys split on Iraq
Patrick Kennedy, now a veteran in Congress, stakes out an agenda that differs from his father.

By JACK COLEMAN
STAFF WRITER
No matter what spirited debates may occur in Hyannisport, the Kennedys seldom disagree on political policy, at least not in public.




A split in the family

Although they still agree on most topics, U.S. Sen. Edward Kennedy and his son, U.S. Rep. Patrick Kennedy, are split on issues like the presidential campaign, the embargo on Cuba and the recent congressional war resolution.

Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) voted against the resolution authorizing U.S. military action.

"The threat from Iraq is not imminent, and it will distract America from the two more immediate threats to our security - the clear and present danger of terrorism and the crisis with North Korea."

Rep. Patrick Kennedy (D-R.I.) voted in favor of the resolution.

Saddam Hussein "does not view weapons of mass destruction merely as deterrents, but rather as offensive weapons to be used to further his quest for power and give him leverage over the United States."



But in what could be the most important question of the era - whether the United States should use force to disarm Saddam Hussein - the two Kennedys in Congress find themselves on opposite sides.

U.S. Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., an outspoken critic of the Bush administration's drive toward war with Iraq, believes United Nations inspections should continue and war would make Americans less safe from terrorists.

Kennedy voted against the congressional resolution in October that authorized Bush to invade Iraq.

In a Jan. 21 speech at the National Press Club, Kennedy said "the threat from Iraq is not imminent, and it will distract America from the two more immediate threats to our security - the clear and present danger of terrorism and the crisis with North Korea.

"The far more likely reality is than an assault against Iraq, especially without broad international support, will not advance the defeat of al-Qaida, but undermine it," Kennedy warned, saying it could "quickly spin out of control and engulf other nations in the region, too."

Kennedy's son, U.S. Rep. Patrick Kennedy, D-R.I., has a different position on tensions in the Persian Gulf. He voted in favor of the congressional authorization for war, saying it was "a national security imperative" to prevent Saddam from acquiring nuclear weapons.

Saddam "does not view weapons of mass destruction merely as deterrents," Kennedy said on the House floor Oct. 10, "but rather as offensive weapons to be used to further his quest for power and give him leverage over the United States."

Constant communication
The two Kennedys spoke extensively about Iraq in the days leading to the vote, said Ernesto Anguilla, an aide to Rep. Kennedy.

"The senator actually grilled the congressman on his position and asked him all the possible questions," Anguilla said. "Afterwards, the senator said, 'well, he answered all the questions.'"

The two Kennedys agree more often than they disagree, said Anguilla. They have lunch together once a week and talk on a regular basis.

"Having been in Congress almost a decade, Congressman Kennedy makes his own decisions based on what is best for his constituency and what he sees as important in setting the course of this nation," said Stephanie Cutter, an aide to Sen. Kennedy.

After the vote on the Iraqi resolution in October, a Providence Journal-Bulletin reporter wrote a story saying Patrick Kennedy shared more in common with his uncle, the late John F. Kennedy, than with his father.

"I'm inclined to agree with that," Anguilla said. "President Kennedy did use the military when it was warranted. Congressman Kennedy has said all along that the military option is a last resort, but it should be kept on the table."

Signs of change
Patrick Kennedy's unwillingness to defer to his father on such an important issue marks a sign of changes within the Kennedy family, said Boston University professor Robert Dallek.

Edward Kennedy and his siblings were not inclined to publicly disagree with their parents, Dallek said.

Dallek is finishing a biography, "An Unfinished Life: John F. Kennedy, 1917-1963," that is due out May 13.

"You did have a degree of loyalty that was unbreachable" to the Kennedy elders, Dallek said. "But 40 years is a long time and a lot has changed and the family is hardly a uniform or single unit any more.

"There has been so much pain and suffering in that family," Dallek said. "Not that they don't support each other, but they each have to help themselves to some extent.

"I think this is a time when a younger member of the brood, who is staking out his political future, might feel compelled to get some distance from his father," Dallek said.

Falmouth resident Phil F. Mackey Jr., who worked in the Kennedy White House, thinks Patrick Kennedy has decided it is time for him to establish a separate political identity within the family.

"He wants to show that he has a mind of his own, that he doesn't always march to the beat of his father," said Mackey, who is working on U.S. Sen. John F. Kerry's campaign for president. "He hasn't had the smoothest of rides in Rhode Island."

Boston political analyst Jon Keller points out that Patrick's cousin, Joseph P. Kennedy II, did not always defer to his uncle while in Congress.

Joseph Kennedy voted in favor of the balanced budget amendment, which was opposed by Edward Kennedy.

Joseph Kennedy also broke with a long-standing family position and came out in favor of the death penalty.

"At least in the cases of Joe and Patrick, the new generation of Kennedys takes its political cues more from its own experiences and constituencies than from some doctrinaire family 'legacy,'" Keller said.

Different viewpoints
But while Patrick Kennedy more often than not defers to his influential father, especially on education, health care, gun control and prescription drugs, they part company in two other areas.

Sen. Kennedy, once a strong supporter of a U.S. trade embargo against Cuba, has called for lifting restrictions on food, medicine and travel to Cuba. Patrick Kennedy wants the embargo to continue.

The two Kennedys also disagree on their candidate for the Democratic nomination for president in 2004.

The elder Kennedy backs Senate colleague Kerry, while Patrick Kennedy supports fellow House member Richard Gephardt, who formally announced his candidacy last month.

New York Times political reporter Adam Clymer, who wrote a book about Edward Kennedy in 1999, downplayed the significance of father and son disagreeing on candidates for president.

Edward Kennedy is unlikely to support anyone but Kerry since they come from the same state, said Clymer, who was at the John F. Kennedy Library in Boston over the weekend for a presidential tapes conference.

Kennedy also supported fellow Bay State politicians Michael Dukakis and Paul Tsongas when they ran for president in 1988 and 1992, Clymer said.

"In neither case was it with the energy that he supported Al Gore" in 2000, Clymer said. "And we'll see how much energy there is in his support for Kerry."

(Published: March 3, 2003)

 






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TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts; US: Rhode Island
KEYWORDS: patrickkennedy; tedkennedy; troubleinparadise
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Could this be a sign?

Article is from Monday, but a friend just put me on to it.

1 posted on 03/08/2003 2:57:35 PM PST by metesky
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To: metesky
>>>Could this be a sign?

What sign?

If you mean, a sign of intelligence in the Kennedy clan. May be. But I wouldn't bet on it.

2 posted on 03/08/2003 3:04:44 PM PST by Reagan Man
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To: metesky
A sign of what? The Kennedys trying to save their sorry rears after we win the war and it is proven that Saddam was about to unleash his fury upon our shores?

Teddy is old and his career is about over. The kids, however, have many more years to feed at the public trough.

3 posted on 03/08/2003 3:05:04 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: metesky
A sign of what? That the Kennedys will no longer rape and murder their female companions?
4 posted on 03/08/2003 3:10:42 PM PST by medscribe
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To: metesky
""The senator actually grilled the congressman on his position and asked him all the possible questions,"

Obviously the congressman was never allowed to grill the senator on his views...

5 posted on 03/08/2003 3:14:12 PM PST by RS
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To: Reagan Man
A sign that alcohol hasn't so deluded the clan that they don't know enough to hedge their bets.
6 posted on 03/08/2003 3:27:32 PM PST by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Teddy is old and his career is about over. The kids, however, have many more years to feed at the public trough.

I think you're correct, but I'm hoping the voters in R.I. come out of the ether and see this for what it is.

7 posted on 03/08/2003 3:29:44 PM PST by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can)
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To: RS
The congressman knows perfectly well what the senators views are, but to say so would ruin the family drama.
8 posted on 03/08/2003 3:31:26 PM PST by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can)
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To: medscribe
A sign of what? That the Kennedys will no longer rape and murder their female companions?

Bill Clinton became an honorary Kennedy in 1998.

9 posted on 03/08/2003 3:58:28 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: medscribe
I understand that Patches (Dim bulb - RI) Kennedy is more likely to be found in the company of men...

Fat Teddy is two exits past Pathetic.
10 posted on 03/08/2003 4:11:35 PM PST by islander-11
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To: Reagan Man
Like I could care at all about what either one of them think. I heard the big k rambling on the other day about the war....blah, blah, blah....sounded terrible!!!! Out of control.
11 posted on 03/08/2003 4:26:08 PM PST by cubreporter
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To: metesky
The only reason a Kennedy does anything is if there is something in it for him/her. Anyone who would try to attach noble intentions to their actions will believe the Clintons are actually caring, selfless people.
12 posted on 03/08/2003 4:26:24 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: metesky
It could be a sign but you and I saw the sign a long time ago. Its nice to be right in print once in a while cotoos to you
thank you for this info
13 posted on 03/08/2003 4:44:53 PM PST by Walnut
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To: metesky
"Saddam "does not view weapons of mass destruction merely as deterrents," Kennedy said"

Can someone tell me how a bio or chem weapon can be used for DEFENSE??!!

14 posted on 03/08/2003 4:58:49 PM PST by Thom Pain
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To: metesky
Playing both sides against the middle.

Ted-- fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life.
15 posted on 03/08/2003 6:05:28 PM PST by IncPen
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To: metesky
"No matter what spirited debates may occur in Hyannisport..."

"Spirited debate." A very subtley punned way of saying, "Drunken Brawl."

16 posted on 03/08/2003 6:09:21 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Muerte del Cielo)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Teddy is old and his career is about over

Exactly. The only thing the drunk fat-ass murderer has to look forward to now is the 10th circle.

17 posted on 03/08/2003 7:13:35 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: islander-11; Liz; metesky
Well put. Is Pansy Patches trying to act like a man for once? Teddy really is the stupidest Kennedy of his generation and is looking at a long term stay in Hell.
18 posted on 03/08/2003 7:24:29 PM PST by CARepubGal
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To: CARepubGal
Paddy has to appease his constituents.

We should not conclude his position is based on principles.

The Kennedy's have no principles but one....getting reelected.

19 posted on 03/08/2003 7:33:11 PM PST by Liz
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To: metesky
threats to our security - the clear and present danger of terrorism and the crisis with North Korea."

If Bush tomorrow announced we were putting Iraq on hold and going after N.Korea, Kennedy and friends would choke on their Krispy Kremes!

20 posted on 03/08/2003 7:53:32 PM PST by fight_truth_decay (Occupied)
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