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Balochistan’s Minister Confirms Arrest of Bin Laden’s Two Sons
BalochistanPost ^ | March 08

Posted on 03/08/2003 3:40:29 AM PST by Bad~Rodeo

Federal Minister, US and Afghans Refute The Claim.

ISLAMABAD: Two sons of Osama bin Laden were arrested in southeastern Afghanistan in a joint operation involving Pakistani and US forces, Balochistan Home Minister Sanaullah Zehri said on Friday.

"I am in constant touch with the security forces. I was informed by intelligence agencies that the reports coming across the border (from Afghanistan) are that two of Osama's sons were caught and they were injured," Zehri told reporters

"They were arrested from Rabat area in Afghanistan," Zehri told The Associated Press in a telephone interview. Speaking to reporters in Balochistan, Zehri said the two sons arrested were Saad and Hamza bin Laden.

He said the sons may have been injured in the operation that reportedly killed seven other al-Qaeda activists. Zehri refused to say which military units were involved.

"They were allied forces," he said, operating near Rabat in the extreme southwestern tip of Afghanistan where it borders Pakistan and Iran. Some sources claim Bin Laden has at least 23 children by several wives. Saad is one the oldest, in his early 20s and has emerged as an al-Qaida leader and one of America's top two dozen targets in the network.

Washington Disputes

But in Washington, US counter terrorism officials strongly disputed the report, saying they had no information that would suggest any of the sons had been detained. "It's not true," said a US official who spoke on condition of anonymity. "We have absolutely no information to substantiate that," the official said.

At the Pentagon, two senior officials said they could not confirm that sons of bin Laden had been arrested. They said they did not know if the report was correct, but that there was no indication of the US military involvement in such an operation.

Contradiction in Federal and Provincial Positions

Taking the same stand as of the Washington, Pakistan’s Federal Interior Minister Faisal Saleh Hayat told AFP "there is absolutely no truth in this report. There has been no arrest of this nature," dismissing claims by provincial Home Minister Sanaullah Zehri.

The contradictions in the statements of various officials indicate that no one is sure about the identities of any of the persons arrested in the area. Everybody arrested on any pretext is just an “al-Qaeda” activist and for these officials it is enough to keep innocent arrested people behind the bars for years and years.

Afghan Denial

A senior Afghan regional government official on Friday denied the report. "I have spoken to Afghan forces operating in the area where they are supposed to have been captured, and nothing like this has happened," said Abdul Karim Barohi, the governor of southwestern Nimroz province.

The Afghan military commander in Rabat, Haji Eid Muhammad, also denied the arrests. "No. That is not correct," he said and added "My people are patrolling with the Americans and for a long time there has been no large American military operation here."

Meanwhile, the hunt for Osama bin Laden intensified on Friday along Pakistan's northwest border with Afghanistan, as a senior official warned that he could not hide for much longer if information from top terror suspect Khalid Sheikh was correct.

"What we are doing is to scour the area in light of what we have been told by Khalid Sheikh and the information found in documents seized during the raid," a senior security official who is closely involved in al-Qaeda investigations told AFP, on condition of anonymity. "The hunt is definitely on in the northwestern areas bordering Afghanistan. It is also going on in other parts of the region," he added.

The hunt had also stepped up for bin Laden's deputy Ayman al-Zawahri, an Egyptian physician, in Balochistan. Among the vast trove of data found on Khalid Sheikh were documents indicating that al-Zawahri was hiding in Balochistan. "The hunt is definitely on for (al-Zawahri)," the official said.

"The documents recovered in the raid suggested he was in Balochistan. How recently, we are not certain. "Most of the documents indicating possible whereabouts of the two top operatives are undated," he said. The documents included undated handwritten letters in Arabic, which investigators said matched bin Laden's handwriting.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 03/08/2003 3:40:29 AM PST by Bad~Rodeo
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To: Bad~Rodeo
It is obvious to me that either the sons or UBL himself has been captured and for some reason it is being sat on.

The stories have been the same from Reuters, AP and Monsoor Ijaz: Firefight, people killed , heavy machine gun fire, arrests made of possible wounded "bin laden", (sons or father).

Too much smoke for no flame

2 posted on 03/08/2003 3:49:09 AM PST by The Wizard (Demonrats are enemies of America)
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To: Bad~Rodeo
If this is true,and i am not sure that it is,why would the US immediatly deny it.When this info first came over the airwaves "US Oficials" immediatly denied it.Almost sounded scripted in anticipation of the information.We may not want OBL to know we have them just yet.
3 posted on 03/08/2003 3:54:13 AM PST by eastforker
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Fear of reprisals, suddeness of their capture. Rumour has it that the White House was having huge discussions yesterday on whether to disseminate this such information.
4 posted on 03/08/2003 3:58:55 AM PST by Bad~Rodeo
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To: Bad~Rodeo
Not long after 9/11,mind-bender posted some info about an arrest in south Florida involving OBL's brother,FReep mailed me that his was a good alphabet source.After about 3 hours,story was pulled and nothing was ever mentioned again.
5 posted on 03/08/2003 4:07:10 AM PST by eastforker
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To: Bad~Rodeo
Two items have been consistent in virtually all the reports I've read and heard: 1) There was a fire fight and 2) 7 people were killed.

It's the details of who was fighting and who, if anybody, was captured that keep varying.

This is starting to sound like the report of those 3 ships that are wandering around the oceans of the world with materiel for Iraq that Iraq isn't allowed to have. Any substantive facts about that situation are very hard to find.
6 posted on 03/08/2003 4:15:26 AM PST by randita
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To: All
Browse through some of their other files and you'll see that the Baluchistan Post is notorious for repeating al-Qaeda claims of hundreds of American casualties in Afghanistan. I would like this news to be true as much as the next guy, but I would prefer better sources than a pro-Taliban newspaper and the (MMA?) home minister of Baluchistan.
7 posted on 03/08/2003 4:22:56 AM PST by Angelus Errare
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To: randita
Any substantive facts about that situation are very hard to find.

Now THAT sounds like a challenge....L~

8 posted on 03/08/2003 4:27:12 AM PST by Bad~Rodeo
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To: Angelus Errare
the Baluchistan Post is notorious for repeating al-Qaeda claims of hundreds of American casualties in Afghanistan

True Statement....

9 posted on 03/08/2003 4:29:51 AM PST by Bad~Rodeo
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To: Angelus Errare
I also read a similar Associated Press story that sounded credible. 7/8 killed, 7/8 captured. This feels like something important. I believe the President will soon be crossing off some more names on that list of his.
10 posted on 03/08/2003 4:30:49 AM PST by Swampmarine
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To: All
However....I put my Trust in these boys....


11 posted on 03/08/2003 4:41:30 AM PST by Bad~Rodeo
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To: The Wizard
Seems to me we were not suppose to know. For some reason maybe they wanted them dead and not alive, now they will have a hard time covering that option. When I found the article at 2am yesterday, it said 9 were captured, eight hours later it says 7-9 are dead and since then nothing but denials.
12 posted on 03/08/2003 5:45:50 AM PST by JustPiper
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To: Bad~Rodeo
Balochistan
...I've never heard of Balochistan.
13 posted on 03/08/2003 5:57:11 AM PST by Consort
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To: JustPiper
You may be correct in your analysis.We do not need any martyrs.It was reported they were injured,maybe they died later.OBL's sons dead after a gunfight would not be good for the US at this time.
14 posted on 03/08/2003 6:02:21 AM PST by eastforker
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To: Bad~Rodeo
Something is going on. I think there is confusion plus secrecy involved.

On Wednesday, rumors of Bin Laden's capture circulated on Wall Street. There was general excitement about information found with KSM.

Thursday evening, ABC's Brian Ross reported that "a major military operation to capture Bin Laden is being launched at this hour". I believe this was a CIA operation.

Then, late Thursday night rumors were "swirling" around Pakistan that Bin Laden or two of his sons had been captured and seven AQ killed (that number 9) near Noshki, Pakistan. Eyewitnesses said that western officials were "very excited" by the results of the operation.

Early Friday, ABC reported that the CIA was tracking a large caravan at the intersection of Iran, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. The CIA said that there was a "high degree of probability" that Bin Laden was in the caravan.

Later Friday morning the Pak Minister said that two UBL sons and seven AQ were captured/killed near Rabat which is at the intersection of Iran, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. This was a major change of location in the supposed raid: Rabat is hundreds of miles away from Noshki. Our WH poo-poohed the reports and our Afghanistan commander said there were no military operations in southern Afghanistan. However, journalists who attempted to travel to Rabat were turned back by Pakistanis at Noshki. The whole area was shut down.

What to make of all this??? Maybe our intelligence was wrong and the caravan didn't contain any AQ and we don't want to expose a failed op. Maybe we actually captured UBL's sons. I guess I'd like to know if the CIA has denied any operations in the Rabat area. So far, I've only seen denials by our military.
15 posted on 03/08/2003 7:18:25 AM PST by mikegi
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To: Swampmarine
Bush said there would be public victories and private victories in his Sept 20 2001 speech ... he could have added "and some victories somewhere in between, communicated as rumor, myth, unsubstantiated report and message board speculation."

16 posted on 03/08/2003 9:14:53 AM PST by WOSG (Liberate Iraq!!)
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Two Sons of Osama bin Laden Nabbed in Afghanistan

QUETTA March 08 (NNI): Two sons of Osama bin Laden, chief of al-Qaeda network have been arrested in southeastern Afghanistan near Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran borders, Balochistan Provincial Home Minister Sardar Sanaullah Zehri said on Friday.

At least nine suspected al-Qaeda members have been killed in a joint operation involving US special forces and Afghan troops.

Zehri said that US and Afghan troops took part in the operation against supporters of bin Laden in the Ribat area.

Rabat is at the extreme tip of southwestern Afghanistan where the Afghan, Pakistan and Iran borders meet.

The arrested were identified as Saad bin Laden and Hamza bin Laden, the two sons of Osama bin Laden.

Osama bin Laden is believed to have 14 to 18 sons. Saad bin Laden, the eldest, is on top of the US list of the most wanted and had been tipped by bin Laden to replace him.

"The people killed belonged to al-Qaeda," he said. "Pakistani forces did not take part in the operation...it is an Afghan area."

17 posted on 03/08/2003 9:38:23 AM PST by Bad~Rodeo (Light the Fires and Kick the Tires....Roll On)
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