ESTRADA Live Thread- 3/06/03

self | 3/6/03 | RobFromGa

[Sacajaweau]

It's about 8 hours difference to Kabul so about that to NY Time.

It's suppertime there.

[Republic of Texas]

I hope you are correct.

[hobbes1]

I've outlawed Iraq, the Bombing begins in 5 minutes?

Or We sent a letter last thursday, and no one asked...Now Confirm this Man...?

Any Bets?

[tuckrdout]

EXTREME point of view?! Are you kidding? He has the same point of view as most of the people you represent, Daschle!


Hey, why didn't you ask him any questions this week, you liar?

[Slicksadick]

Add me.

[Miss Marple]

Estrada (with no doubt a question or two asked and answered in Spanish), Iraq and the Security Council, and maybe the head of Osama bin Laden! :-)

[xzins]

I just read that. It's a really good article. The same point must be the opinion of many lawyers because it appears in the 1st link I posted in an abstract from 2 other law professors.

ABSTRACT: Catherine Fisk Loyola Law School, Los Angeles; Erwin Chemerinsky University of Southern California abstract source The filibuster in the United States Senate imposes an effective supermajority requirement for the enactment of most legislation because sixty votes are required to bring a measure to a vote over the objection of any senator. Filibusters are ubiquitous but virtually invisible, for the contemporary Senate practice does not require a senator to hold the floor to filibuster; senators filibuster simply by indicating to the Senate leadership that they intend to do so. The prevalence and invisibility of this "stealth filibuster" dramatically affects which legislation is passed and which nominees are confirmed. The stealth filibuster also raises serious constitutional questions. Summarizing the historical development of Senate filibusters, Professors Fisk and Chemerinsky show that the nature and effects of filibusters have changed significantly as the Senate has grown larger and busier. They argue that, although dilatory debate has a history, the modern stealth filibuster is in significant respects unprecedented. Professors Chemerinsky and Fisk also assess the effects of the filibuster on Senate practice in light of empirical and public choice theories of congressional behavior. Based on this, they conclude that the filibuster is not alone among congressional procedures in being antimajoritarian and that it may counteract the antimajoritarian aspects of other congressional procedures. Professors Fisk and Chemerinsky then discuss the constitutionality of the filibuster. They first conclude that a judicial challenge to the Senate rules that permit it would be justiciable if brought by proper plaintiffs. They then conclude that, although the filibuster itself is not unconstitutional, the Senate rule that prohibits a majority of a newly elected Senate from abolishing the filibuster is unconstitutional because it impermissibly entrenches the decisions of past Congresses.

[gtech]

I've outlawed Iraq, the Bombing begins in 5 minutes?

Or We sent a letter last thursday, and no one asked...Now Confirm this Man...?

Any Bets?

The latter.

[alnick]

John Walker Lind has been attacked in his jail cell overnight. Just a little breaking news for y'all who are watching C-SPan.

[Miss Marple]

Gee, who'd have thought that perhaps someone in prison mught be a little aggravated at that jerk?

[tuckrdout]

I agree with you. They will look bad IMHO.

But, look at Daschle blame the Republicans for the month of debate on Estrada! Just vote for Cloture, Daschle! vote for Cloture!

[Quilla]

Has anyone heard from what location the President will be speaking from - Oval Office, per chance?

[hobbes1]

It is unfortuante that Chemerinsky is out in Cali. He does not get on nearly enough talk shows.

[Consort]

The lib media will try to distract from this Senate vote.

[Carolinamom]

Has Daschle found a way to save face by talking about imminent war and thus opting out of cloture vote? Or is he still just whining?

[Bahbah]

"This has been an incredibly intelligently thought and fought bit of strategery."

Darn right. I do not miss Trent Notalott one bit. He was a complete sellout.

[killbuckner]

I am fairly certain that you need 60 votes to get cloture- not 60% of the votes cast. Can the moderate Dems just abstain from the vote to avoid a backlash?

[NeoCaveman]

OR c. They aren't going for the knock out swing in the third round, when the D's are getting bad PR and alienating Hispanics.

I, like you, tend to favor the more aggressive approach but just because they take a diffrent strategy doesn't mean they have folded.

[justshe]

Daschle also playing sad that Estrada has not felt the need to be more cooperative and he hopes this will change in the future. Sounds like he is sure he still has the votes to block.

[Carolinamom]

I think that a cloture vote is inevitable since Frist calls the shots of the senate agenda.