Are White Males Getting Shortchanged?

American Prowler ^ | 03/05/03 | Marty Nemko

[wizzler]

Are white males getting shortchanged? No. Freedom is getting shortchanged.

We should resist the temptation to partition ourselves off into groups like this, even when it's in the name of a good cause such as fighting affirmative action. Positioning the argument this way simply buys into the left's premise that groups are important in the first place. They're not. Individuals are important. And THAT'S why affirmative action is wrong.

If you cede this ground -- if you invoke "white males" as a group that is "losing rights" -- you've already handed the argument to the libs.

[cyborg]

AMEN! We ought to remember who insists that racial categories remain on all manner of government forms, applications, job applications,etc.It's liberals who engineer this nightmare.

[dark_lord]

The problem is that other people classify individuals into groups, and then make real world decisions based on those classifications. It is not just liberals. There are people here that believe that anyone who thinks that the WOD is a waste of money and that drug laws should exist on the state level, not federal (e.g. 10th amendment) are: (take your pick) (1) unwashed (2) long-haired (3) hippies (4) cop-haters (5) vermin (6,7,8...) Etcetera.

[Free the USA]

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[Middle Man]

"We accept as gospel the widely-reported statistic that women earn 77 cents on the dollar."

While that has been repeated enough times to become "conventional wisdom", noone (least of all Sen. Clinton) ever mentions that the main reason the cost of non-salary benefits has skyrocketed in the workplace is because women are and always have been a much higher medical risk than men.

I discovered this for myself when I went to work for a healthcare provider in the 90's and saw my premiums for major medical double overnight. When I asked the "benefits specialist" in HR why this was, she responded chirpily, "This company is 89% female."

[Mr. Jeeves]

To paraphrase the old feminist saw:

White men have to be twice as good as anyone else to succeed today.

Fortunately, this is not difficult.

[SauronOfMordor]

There's also the tidbit about "more whites than minorities are on welfare"

FALSE STATEMENT. The majority of AFDC recipients are NOT white

From US Dept of Health & Human Services (Table 10, breakdown by race), we have:

TABLE 10

AFDC FAMILIES BY RACE OF NATURAL OR ADOPTIVE PARENT

OCTOBER 1995 - SEPTEMBER 1996

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RACE OF PARENT!

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TOTAL                                              NATIVE     UN-

STATE FAMILIES        WHITE  BLACK HISPANIC ASIAN AMERICAN KNOWN

---------------- --------- ----- ----- -------- ----- -------- -----

U.S. TOTAL 4,553,308  35.9%  36.9%  20.8%    3.0%    1.4% 2.0%

There are more black families on welfare than Whites, and Blacks and Hispanics make up 57% of the total

[FourtySeven]

What I'd like to know is who are these "unknown" recipients? Aliens from another planet? hehe

[Teacher317]

Equal Treatment under Law?

"To treat some people equally, we must treat them differently"
Jutice Blackmun, in the Affirmative Action in college admissions case, CA v Bakke

[SauronOfMordor]

What I'd like to know is who are these "unknown" recipients?

How would you classify Tiger Woods, or other multi-racial people? Alternately, some people refuse to put down their race on the paperwork

[jackbob]

Are white males getting shortchanged? No. Freedom is getting shortchanged.

Of course, "we should resist the temptation to partition ourselves off into groups like this..." because as you say, "positioning the argument this way simply buys into the left's premise that groups are important..." On the otherhand, denying the truth of an observation, just because it positions our arguments at a perceived disadvantage, also is not a sound practice. Honesty must come first. Then create arguments to deal with it.

Keeping our eyes focused on the idea of individual rights as a goal, must not supercede the reality of individuals who use group power to effectively advance their own aims at the expense of other, less fortunate individuals.

Most white males with IQs of 115 have to really struggle in todays America. Their struggle is often not recognized by those with IQs of 125.

[Tailgunner Joe]

bttt

[n1f2ns]

Right now the most discriminated against person is a young white male. Hands down. Its time to stop this reverse discrimination. Our generation has done nothing to deserve this.

[cmsgop]