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'Don't go too far' South Korea leader tells Bush
The Times ^ | March 5, 2003 | Robert Thomson and Richard Lloyd Parry

Posted on 03/04/2003 3:29:12 PM PST by MadIvan


President Roh at his inauguration ceremony

In his first interview as President, Roh Moo Hyun says that Blair has a role in the Korean conflict

TONY BLAIR could play a vital role in the stand-off between North Korea and the United States, the new President of South Korea told The Times yesterday.

Tensions rose on the Korean Peninsula after it was revealed that North Korean fighter jets threatened to attack a US naval spyplane. But President Roh said that the high-altitude encounter was predictable, because the United States had increased its aerial surveillance of North Korea’s reopened nuclear facilities.

“It was a very predictable chain of events,” he said in his presidential palace, the Blue House. “A very strong threat against a counterpart can be a very effective means of negotiation,” he said, of the increased US surveillance. “I am urging the US not to go too far.”

Let's get this straight, the North Koreans invade your airspace, Mr. Roh, and you are worried about the Americans going too far? Been eating too much fermented kimchi or what? - Ivan

The United States is preparing to lodge an official protest with North Korea over the harassment.

In an outspoken interview, which highlights the gaping differences between Seoul and Washington, the South Korean President insisted that the dispute over North Korea’s suspected nuclear weapons programme will be resolved only if America and North Korea engage in direct talks — something that President Bush has ruled out. He also said that Tony Blair would make a suitable intermediary to begin the process of negotiating an end to the present deadlock.

“Ultimately, this problem has to be resolved by President Bush and Chairman Kim Jong Il, and they have to be moved to solve the problem,” he said. “In this regard I believe Prime Minister Blair’s role is very important.”

Mr Roh made clear that building a personal relationship with Kim Jong Il would be a priority. He said that he supported the establishment of a hotline with the North Korean leader to avoid the misunderstandings that have dogged relations between the two countries for half a century.

President Roh’s Government agrees with the Bush Administration that North Korea must abandon its suspected nuclear weapons programmes, but the two leaders differ on the best means of reaching such a goal.

The Americans insist that it can be achieved only in a multilateral forum, and in the past few weeks several proposals have been floated and rejected by North Korea. But, since his election last December and his formal inauguration eight days ago, President Roh has called for a policy of openness and engagement. His comments to The Times show that the gap between the two is as wide as ever.

“When I meet President Bush I will convince him by saying that although North Korea does not meet the values of the US and may not be likeable from their stand-point, there is a possibility to improve the relationship,” said Mr Roh. He is expected to visit Washington in the next three months. “I’d like to highlight the benefits of a dialogue with North Korea. When we look at history, the greater a leader is, the more effort he makes to create dialogue.”

President Roh was at pains to point out that it was up to Kim Jong Il to abandon his nuclear programme. But US officials are exasperated by his eagerness to engage a Government that devotes resources to its million-strong army, but where as many as three million people have died of starvation.

His failure to condemn unequivocally North Korea’s interception of the spyplane will only add to the edginess between Seoul and Washington. A senior Western official said: “There are a lot of people in the US who find South Korean nonchalance off-putting. To tolerate that kind of human rights violation without wanting to change it — to tolerate all the heavy artillery pointing at Seoul.”

But all sides agree on the gravity of the spyplane incident, which occurred on Sunday but was announced by the United States on late on Monday. Four North Korean fighter jets — two MiG29s and two MiG23s — surrounded and followed the US Boeing RC135S, a converted Boeing 707 passenger jet known as the Cobra Ball, which was forced to return to its base in Japan.

The RC135S is based at Kadena Air Force Base, in Okinawa in Japan. Such aircraft routinely fly missions close to the North Korean coast monitoring communications, radar emissions and the deployment of forces.

The MiGs “locked on” their attack radar and flew within 50ft of the unarmed aircraft, in a high-risk manoeuvre similar to the one in 2001 when a Chinese fighter downed a US Navy Orion spyplane over Hainan Island in the South China Sea. The incident took place 150 miles from North Korea in international air space over the Sea of Japan.

US officials said that they would make a formal protest.

Washington: The United States ordered military reinforcements to within striking distance of North Korea yesterday in response to the spy plane incident (Roland Watson writes). The Pentagon said the move was non-aggressive.

"Deploying these forces is a prudent measure to bolster our defensive posture as a deterrent," a spokesman said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: blair; bush; kimjongil; northkorea; roh; southkorea; uk; us
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To: MadIvan
I have a simple solution: Pull all US troops out of S. Korea and tell the North the South is theirs. Then we put them on notice that one false move and the entire Korean peninsula will glow in the dark for the next 100 years.
21 posted on 03/04/2003 4:01:11 PM PST by pankot
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To: MadIvan
Bring our troops home.
22 posted on 03/04/2003 4:18:05 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: MadIvan
Stand-off?

North Korea broke their end of the deal from day one, arm rogue nationsand terrorists, are threatening to nuke the USA if we don't continue to send them more money, fuel, and food.

Stand-off?
23 posted on 03/04/2003 4:23:16 PM PST by Solamente
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To: MadIvan
... well, uh ... I guess I'm pretty dense huh? Here I brought up the Manchurian Candidate thing and then didn't even catch the quote and humor you passed back. LOL!

Anyhow, Roh is definately singing their tune. It's stuff like this, that will lead to something like this IMHO.

Best Fregards.

24 posted on 03/04/2003 4:25:33 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: MadIvan
Somewhere in the middle of this Propaganda crap there is a thread of reality, lets not worry to much about their words, lets just send a message fat and finish them off.
Iraq is about 2 weeks away from being bombed.
25 posted on 03/04/2003 4:37:34 PM PST by ruready4eternity (Islam Is The Beast dont kid yourselves, not a religion of peace)
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To: MadIvan
I saw pull the US troops out of South Korea and let the students in the south welcome their cousins from the north with open arms. Then we can nuke the lot of them as far as I'm concerned.
26 posted on 03/04/2003 4:41:02 PM PST by Cautor
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To: Brilliant
It clearly isn't what you went to school for.......
27 posted on 03/04/2003 4:56:22 PM PST by Almondjoy
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To: MadIvan
said Mr Roh... “I’d like to highlight the benefits of a dialogue with North Korea. When we look at history, the greater a leader is, the more effort he makes to create dialogue.”

Well, George Bush has been trying to "dialogue" for six months on Iraq and where has that gotten him? Is he looked on as a "great leader" by either side for doing so, or just a schmuck?

On the other hand, Bill Clinton dialogued with North Korea for six full years, and look where that got us! Can anybody in his right mind say Bill Clinton is a "great leader"? The description "Great Failure" (charitably) come to mind!

28 posted on 03/04/2003 4:58:30 PM PST by Gritty
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To: Jeff Head
A South Korean Manchurian President.

Exactly. He sounds like someone has either turned him or reworked his mind in some sort of Sun Myung Moon-ish brainwashing.

29 posted on 03/04/2003 6:16:41 PM PST by Siobhan (+Pray+)
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To: MadIvan
"Mr Roh made clear that building a personal relationship with Kim Jong Il would be a priority"

The only rational 'personal relationship' that anyone could have with an insane person utilizes a straight-jacket, or a heavy dose of Haldol. Or in Jong Ill's case, a sudden, acute dose of lead poisoning.

30 posted on 03/04/2003 6:39:12 PM PST by 45Auto (Registration eventually leads to confiscation)
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To: Siobhan
RE #29

He is a natural liberal. You do not need to brainwash him. He was that way for a long time.

31 posted on 03/04/2003 8:59:52 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: MadIvan
Why not Putin, afterall N. Korea has always been their pet project, and why has Putin been so mum on N. Korea. The most Russia has done publicly on N. Korea in past month was Putin sending the mental Il horses for his birthday. Did Putin go to China to update the MOSCOW/BEIJING PACT of 1950?

Hey, why not Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter they would make good go betweens for N. Korea.

32 posted on 03/04/2003 9:07:33 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: AmericanInTokyo
You took the words out of my mouth. Asian Bill Clinton...

That about sums it up, except that Roh is a bigger _____(whimp) even then. Not to mention that SOB liar he is replacing, with his 100 something million dollar bribe diplomatic breakthroughs and all.

33 posted on 03/04/2003 9:16:57 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: TigerLikesRooster
He is a natural liberal. You do not need to brainwash him. He was that way for a long time.

Kind of like being born gay.

34 posted on 03/04/2003 9:20:34 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii; AmericanInTokyo
Re #34

Yeah. I wonder if his wife's family background also affected him in any degree. His father-in-law, who died in a S. Korean jail back in 70's, was a member of S. Korean Worker's Party(Communist Party) in Kyong-Sang Province. He was a part of the team who conducted a show-trial at one of the local villages around the time of the Korean War. According to the news account, he was one of those in charge of crowd control at the trial. People were sentenced to death in that trial, and were executed. He was picked up by the S. Korean authorities after the Korean War but later was let go. He was picked up again in 60's and locked up in a prison until he died. This was reported by local media as a minor item in the back page. Partly because surviving family members of the executed at the village were following Roh Moo-Hyun on his campaign trails, staging mini-protests.

35 posted on 03/04/2003 11:21:20 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I didn't know that. Hmm.
36 posted on 03/05/2003 6:14:26 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Easy to UNDERRATE N.Korea: Idiotic leader, starving people. BUT DON'T! They could attack in a flash.)
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