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Top Turkish general fears Kurds will be new U.S. ally vs. Iraq
The World Tribune ^ | 4 March, 2003

Posted on 03/04/2003 7:36:28 AM PST by Happy2BMe

Top Turkish general fears Kurds will be new U.S. ally vs. Iraq

SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Tuesday, March 4, 2003

ANKARA — Turkey's military has quietly warned the government that the Kurds south of Turkey in northern Iraq will emerge as the primary U.S. ally unless Ankara and Washington cooperate in the expected war against the Iraqi regime of Saddam Hussein.

Turkish Chief of Staff Gen. Hilmi Ozkok briefed Prime Minister Abdullah Gul on the military's assessment of the expected war against Iraq. The briefing came in wake of parliament's rejection of the government request for U.S. troops in Turkey on Saturday and the subsequent refusal by Ankara's military to allow U.S. officers to cross the border into Iraq.

Kurdish forces have warned that they will treat Turkish troops crossing the border into Iraq as the enemy. The warning has alarmed Turkish military leaders, who have asked the Bush administration to intervene, Middle East Newsline reported.

"There is no reason anymore for Washington to consider Turkey's interests in northern Iraq," a Turkish military source said. "If the United States acts alone in northern Iraq, then the Kurds will be the main military ally of Washington."

[On Monday, parliamentary speaker Bulent Arinc ruled out the reintroduction of the government request for up to 62,000 U.S. troops. "The motion regarding the dispatch of Turkish soldiers abroad and deployment of foreign armed forces in Turkey should not be submitted to parliament again in the same way," Arinc said.]

Ozkok was said to have warned Gul that parliament's rejection of the U.S. military presence would threaten the prospect of cooperation between Ankara and Washington regarding the future of Iraq. The general asserted on Sunday that without a U.S. military umbrella Turkish troops in northern Iraq would be under threat from Kurdish forces.

"If Turkish troops enter the northern Iraq, this would cost Turkey," Ozkok was quoted as saying. "It wouldn't be appropriate for the TSK [Turkish military] to enter the northern Iraq under these conditions as it didn't get enough support from the United States."

[In Washington, the Bush administration acknowledged that Turkey's rejection of U.S. troops could be final. White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said the administration would reassess U.S. war plans as well as relations with Ankara. "Turkey is reviewing its options," Fleischer said on Monday.

"The United States is reviewing its options. And I think it's impossible to make any judgments beyond that at this time."]

Western intelligence sources said Turkey has deployed a division, or about 20,000 troops, in northern Iraq. They said Turkey had planned to deploy up to 80,000 troops in northern Iraq during the war against Baghdad.

Turkish military sources said parliament's rejection of a U.S. troop deployment in Turkey has torpedoed a draft memorandum of understanding with Washington on the conduct of the war in Iraq. Under the MoU, Ankara would be allowed to deploy tens of thousands of troops in northern Iraq under Turkish military command as well as receive billions of dollars in U.S. aid.

The military sources said the Gul government has been told that Washington does not plan to wait for a Turkish reversal of the parliamentary decision. They said the U.S. Defense Department has prepared plans to divert at least two divisions to Kuwait and airlift special operations forces from the Mediterranean over Israel and Jordan and directly to northern Iraq.

"The greatest nightmare would come to be true if the United States goes ahead without Turkey and wins the war against Iraq," Turkish analyst Ali Nihat Ozcan said. "In this case, it will have no responsibility to ask Turkey's opinion on how to restructure Iraq."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: deny; doh; iraq; kurds; mistake; parliment; turkey; war; warlist
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To: steveegg
Three, three politicitians voted to break their country.
41 posted on 03/04/2003 8:38:58 AM PST by gulfcoast6
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To: Happy2BMe
Anti-Americanism has negative consequences -- now THERE'S a novel thought!
42 posted on 03/04/2003 8:43:10 AM PST by Stefan Stackhouse
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To: epluribus_2
"Big New Idea - how about we land the 4th armoured in Israel instead of turkey and just drive through Jordan (and Syria)."

This whole giant cluster bomb has put a whole new skew on how logistics will be planned for years to come.

Don't leave Israel out of the picture - it could actually happen.

43 posted on 03/04/2003 8:46:15 AM PST by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
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To: Happy2BMe
Turkey wants US to allow them to occupy Northern Iraq and ?? the oil fields - suprise suprise!! The Kurds want the oil fields and the Eastern 1/3 of Turkey.

We need to shut down any aide to Turkey and take the oil fields for ourselves.
44 posted on 03/04/2003 8:48:09 AM PST by sandydipper
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To: Stefan Stackhouse
"Anti-Americanism has negative consequences -- now THERE'S a novel thought!"

THEY DON'T ALL STINK IN HOLLYWOOD: A LIST OF THE *BAD* GUYS

45 posted on 03/04/2003 8:55:23 AM PST by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
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To: EternalHope
Look for Iran to start assembling its forces on the borders too. We're in negotiations with them recently.
46 posted on 03/04/2003 8:57:25 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: pepsionice; TomGuy
Tom's question goes to the heart of the matter. This appears to be an affair now in which the military is asking Washington to help them work out something with the civilian government. Interesting in that the new party in power is an Islamic party and in that the military has seemed to hold on to the ultimate power in this country. I suspect the military may also fear the adverse effects this could have on NATO as well.
47 posted on 03/04/2003 8:58:06 AM PST by johniegrad
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To: sandydipper
We need to shut down any aide to Turkey and take the oil fields for ourselves.

Those oilfields are the property of the national governement of Iraq and will remain so.

We're not a colonial power. With few puny and meaningless exceptions undertaken for national security reasons, we never have been and never will be.
48 posted on 03/04/2003 9:00:25 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: EternalHope
I'm not so sure about Turkey. I can't really trust someone that killed over a million Christians.
49 posted on 03/04/2003 9:22:17 AM PST by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem and the Christians and Jews of Iraq.)
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To: richardtavor
"I can't really trust someone that killed over a million Christians."

Why don't the Kurds love the Turks?

50 posted on 03/04/2003 9:27:41 AM PST by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
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To: meenie
With a little diplomatic effort, the United States should be able to make both the Kurds and Turks enemies.

No doubt. With the attitude going in, that America ALWAYS screws up, and FORCES the innocent Turks and Kurds into hating us, the blame America first premise has all the hallmarks of succeeding.

Personally, I don't give a hoot whether they like us or not. They didn't get hit in NY and they won't be doing the bulk of the heavy lifting while removing Saddam.

51 posted on 03/04/2003 10:00:24 AM PST by BOBTHENAILER (Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
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To: Happy2BMe
The million Christians that I mentioned were the Armenians. They just about wiped them out. SE Turkey is part of what used to be Kurdistan. The Turkish Ottoman Empire controlled the whole Middle East until 1923--The Turks tried for centuries to wipe out the Kurds, but never could--Kurds are incredible fighters (unless gassed by Saddam.) The thing that Turkey worries about now, is that if the Kurds are armed by the U.S. and becomes an ally, they could take back a third of Turkey. Their Parliament didn't think this through. I rather save the $30 billion.
52 posted on 03/04/2003 10:59:07 AM PST by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem and the Christians and Jews of Iraq.)
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To: richardtavor
Thousands of Iraqi Kurdish people attend a demonstration to protest possible Turkish intervention in the event of war with Iraq, in Aqra city, northern Iraq, an area controlled by Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) Tuesday, March 4, 2003. (AP Photo/Drazen Simic )
Tue Mar 4, 1:04 PM ET

Thousands of Iraqi Kurdish people attend a demonstration to protest possible Turkish intervention in the event of war with Iraq (news - web sites), in Aqra city, northern Iraq, an area controlled by Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) Tuesday, March 4, 2003.

53 posted on 03/04/2003 11:31:50 AM PST by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
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To: Happy2BMe
BUMP
54 posted on 03/04/2003 4:31:12 PM PST by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
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To: richardtavor
BUMP
55 posted on 03/04/2003 4:31:57 PM PST by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
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To: Happy2BMe
Top Turkish general fears Kurds will be new U.S. ally vs. Iraq

Ya think?

56 posted on 03/04/2003 4:32:26 PM PST by Redcloak (All work and no FReep makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no FReep make s Jack a dul boy. Allwork an)
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To: Redcloak
"Ya think?"

They BLEW IT - ROYALLY!

57 posted on 03/04/2003 4:38:56 PM PST by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
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To: Happy2BMe
BUMP

58 posted on 03/05/2003 7:13:49 AM PST by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
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To: EternalHope
Which side should we take?

If we fight Turkey, it would surely spell the end of NATO. Greece and Turkey fought a war in the late 1970s; both are NATO members, but this was on the periphery of Nato concerns.

But for us to cross swords with a NATO member would destroy the trans Atlantic idea of NATO. It seems that Turkey finds its identity more as an Islamic nation than a European nation. The irony is that I'm sure there were back-stage telephone calls from France, Germany and Belgium threatening to pull the plug on EU membership if they didn't vote against aiding the U.S. in Iraq.

59 posted on 03/05/2003 6:05:32 PM PST by happygrl
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To: Happy2BMe
The end result of the Turkish action may be the creation of the nation of Kurdistan.
60 posted on 03/05/2003 6:17:43 PM PST by Doe Eyes
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