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Top Turkish general fears Kurds will be new U.S. ally vs. Iraq
The World Tribune ^ | 4 March, 2003

Posted on 03/04/2003 7:36:28 AM PST by Happy2BMe

Top Turkish general fears Kurds will be new U.S. ally vs. Iraq

SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Tuesday, March 4, 2003

ANKARA — Turkey's military has quietly warned the government that the Kurds south of Turkey in northern Iraq will emerge as the primary U.S. ally unless Ankara and Washington cooperate in the expected war against the Iraqi regime of Saddam Hussein.

Turkish Chief of Staff Gen. Hilmi Ozkok briefed Prime Minister Abdullah Gul on the military's assessment of the expected war against Iraq. The briefing came in wake of parliament's rejection of the government request for U.S. troops in Turkey on Saturday and the subsequent refusal by Ankara's military to allow U.S. officers to cross the border into Iraq.

Kurdish forces have warned that they will treat Turkish troops crossing the border into Iraq as the enemy. The warning has alarmed Turkish military leaders, who have asked the Bush administration to intervene, Middle East Newsline reported.

"There is no reason anymore for Washington to consider Turkey's interests in northern Iraq," a Turkish military source said. "If the United States acts alone in northern Iraq, then the Kurds will be the main military ally of Washington."

[On Monday, parliamentary speaker Bulent Arinc ruled out the reintroduction of the government request for up to 62,000 U.S. troops. "The motion regarding the dispatch of Turkish soldiers abroad and deployment of foreign armed forces in Turkey should not be submitted to parliament again in the same way," Arinc said.]

Ozkok was said to have warned Gul that parliament's rejection of the U.S. military presence would threaten the prospect of cooperation between Ankara and Washington regarding the future of Iraq. The general asserted on Sunday that without a U.S. military umbrella Turkish troops in northern Iraq would be under threat from Kurdish forces.

"If Turkish troops enter the northern Iraq, this would cost Turkey," Ozkok was quoted as saying. "It wouldn't be appropriate for the TSK [Turkish military] to enter the northern Iraq under these conditions as it didn't get enough support from the United States."

[In Washington, the Bush administration acknowledged that Turkey's rejection of U.S. troops could be final. White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said the administration would reassess U.S. war plans as well as relations with Ankara. "Turkey is reviewing its options," Fleischer said on Monday.

"The United States is reviewing its options. And I think it's impossible to make any judgments beyond that at this time."]

Western intelligence sources said Turkey has deployed a division, or about 20,000 troops, in northern Iraq. They said Turkey had planned to deploy up to 80,000 troops in northern Iraq during the war against Baghdad.

Turkish military sources said parliament's rejection of a U.S. troop deployment in Turkey has torpedoed a draft memorandum of understanding with Washington on the conduct of the war in Iraq. Under the MoU, Ankara would be allowed to deploy tens of thousands of troops in northern Iraq under Turkish military command as well as receive billions of dollars in U.S. aid.

The military sources said the Gul government has been told that Washington does not plan to wait for a Turkish reversal of the parliamentary decision. They said the U.S. Defense Department has prepared plans to divert at least two divisions to Kuwait and airlift special operations forces from the Mediterranean over Israel and Jordan and directly to northern Iraq.

"The greatest nightmare would come to be true if the United States goes ahead without Turkey and wins the war against Iraq," Turkish analyst Ali Nihat Ozcan said. "In this case, it will have no responsibility to ask Turkey's opinion on how to restructure Iraq."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: deny; doh; iraq; kurds; mistake; parliment; turkey; war; warlist
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Turkey made an historically HUGE mistake by slamming us on deploying into northern Iraq through their country - HUGE!
1 posted on 03/04/2003 7:36:28 AM PST by Happy2BMe
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To: a_Turk
you don't know me, but PING!
2 posted on 03/04/2003 7:39:41 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate
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To: Happy2BMe
Payback's a *itch!!
3 posted on 03/04/2003 7:40:27 AM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: Happy2BMe
"There is no reason anymore for Washington to consider Turkey's interests in northern Iraq," a Turkish military source said. "If the United States acts alone in northern Iraq, then the Kurds will be the main military ally of Washington."

That's right. And the die is already cast.

Turkey would have been great to have as an ally. Too bad they chose the other side.

4 posted on 03/04/2003 7:40:49 AM PST by EternalHope
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To: Happy2BMe
"If the United States acts alone in northern Iraq, then the Kurds will be the main military ally of Washington."

Well, duh. You make your bed with the islamic interests, you can sleep with your islamic interests. You can watch your stock market take a one day hit of 14%. You can kiss goodbye the good graces of world opinion.

As Clint Eastwood would have said to the Turkish Parliament, prior to the vote of rejection:

"Go ahead PUNK, make my day."

5 posted on 03/04/2003 7:42:08 AM PST by BOBTHENAILER (Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
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To: Happy2BMe
Just another in a long, sad line of modern liberalism's "if it feels good now, do it" screwing an entire country.
6 posted on 03/04/2003 7:43:33 AM PST by steveegg (The Surgeon General has determined that siding with Al-Qaeda is hazardous to your continued rule.)
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To: Happy2BMe
Let them eat turkey or cake or whatever. Write them off as losers and extortionists.
7 posted on 03/04/2003 7:43:40 AM PST by cynicom
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To: EternalHope
"Turkey would have been great to have as an ally. Too bad they chose the other side."

Turkey prepares to stake claim in Iraq's oil fields - (It's the oil, stupid.)

8 posted on 03/04/2003 7:44:38 AM PST by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
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To: Happy2BMe
Kurdish forces have warned that they will treat Turkish troops crossing the border into Iraq as the enemy. The warning has alarmed Turkish military leaders, who have asked the Bush administration to intervene, Middle East Newsline reported.

Huh? The warning has alarmed Turkish military leaders, who have asked the Bush administration to intervene.
9 posted on 03/04/2003 7:45:04 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: BOBTHENAILER
With a little diplomatic effort, the United States should be able to make both the Kurds and Turks enemies.
10 posted on 03/04/2003 7:48:10 AM PST by meenie
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To: EternalHope
Seems like the Party of God (the Islamic political party in Turkey) really doesn't care. Their objective was to stop Washington, which apparently has not worked, and in the process...their economic sector will slide 20 percent over the next two weeks. This is normally where the Turkish military steps in and tosses all the politicans on the street for 3 years. I wonder if that is the next step in this process.
11 posted on 03/04/2003 7:49:15 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: TomGuy
"The warning has alarmed Turkish military leaders, who have asked the Bush administration to intervene."

Turkey has committed political, strategic, and military suicide. They led us on for over a month into believing we could deploy through their country. We had thousands of troops (real live people, ya know - Americans at that), thousands of tons of military hardware), and billions of dollars committed to it.

Their blunders could cost American lives - people who might even be from your home town.

They forfeited billions of U.S. dollars in aid in hopes of making land grabs before the dust settles from the pending war.

They even deployed tens of thousands of Turkish troops in southern Turkey to intentionally outnumber any American force there - why?

And now, they want US to hold back the KURD!??

12 posted on 03/04/2003 7:53:01 AM PST by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
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To: Happy2BMe

13 posted on 03/04/2003 7:53:33 AM PST by Consort
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To: Happy2BMe
And it sounds as tho these morons have high hopes of "meeting us in the desert" to combat Iraq and ultimately share the spoils of war...

Guess they were our allies til it became muslim against muslim...Their "Democratic muslim" gov't and populace are now siding with Sadam, Yasser and the rest of the unholy alliance...

Maybe instead of a democracy, they should have chosen a Republic...
14 posted on 03/04/2003 7:53:50 AM PST by Iscool
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To: Happy2BMe
GeeDubYa spelled it out right after 9-11.

Check one: ______ with us ______ against us

DUH!
15 posted on 03/04/2003 7:54:56 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Okie by proxy, raised by Yankees, temporarily Californian)
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To: Happy2BMe; PhiKapMom; a_Turk
"There is no reason anymore for Washington to consider Turkey's interests in northern Iraq," a Turkish military source said. "If the United States acts alone in northern Iraq, then the Kurds will be the main military ally of Washington."

They're only now figuring this out? It really is amateur hour in Ankara.

"If Turkish troops enter the northern Iraq, this would cost Turkey," Ozkok was quoted as saying. "It wouldn't be appropriate for the TSK [Turkish military] to enter the northern Iraq under these conditions as it didn't get enough support from the United States."

He bought a vowel. No fair.

The military sources said the Gul government has been told that Washington does not plan to wait for a Turkish reversal of the parliamentary decision. They said the U.S. Defense Department has prepared plans to divert at least two divisions to Kuwait and airlift special operations forces from the Mediterranean over Israel and Jordan and directly to northern Iraq.

Yep. Since they forced us to by acting like Frenchmen.

"The greatest nightmare would come to be true if the United States goes ahead without Turkey and wins the war against Iraq," Turkish analyst Ali Nihat Ozcan said. "In this case, it will have no responsibility to ask Turkey's opinion on how to restructure Iraq."

Turkey deliberately chose this thing.

And it will be the Kurds who have the strong hand in shaping the new Iraq, not Turkey who can just sit home while the adults do business.

Buh-bye, Turkey. See you in the next regional conflict. Maybe you'll have learned something by then.
16 posted on 03/04/2003 7:57:40 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Blue Collar Christian
"I had made it clear to the world that either you're with us or you're with the enemy, and that doctrine still stands"

17 posted on 03/04/2003 7:58:29 AM PST by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
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To: Happy2BMe
Turkey has committed political, strategic, and military suicide.

You forgot "diplomatic" and "financial".
18 posted on 03/04/2003 7:59:47 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Happy2BMe
Are the Kurds really Maoist-Marxist commies? If so, what is the benefit here, especially as we are probably going to take on more Maoists in N. Korea down the road? Don't we open ourselves to blackmail from the Kurds, as in, "You leave the N. Koreans alone, or no oil?" This sounds extremely short-sighted on our part. Maybe more negotiation, more finesse, and less pressure with Turkey might have been more productive.
19 posted on 03/04/2003 7:59:58 AM PST by valkyrieanne
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To: pepsionice

Polls show as much as 94 percent of the Muslim-dominated Turkish public opposes a war with Iraq.

Turkey's paliment dealt a stunning blow to U.S. war planning Saturday by voting against a bill allowing in American combat troops to open a northern front against Iraq. Before the vote, 50,000 Turks staged an anti-war rally near parliment as 4,000 police stood guard.

They chanted "No to War" and "We dont want to be America's soldiers." Some carried banners that read: The people will stop this war." Hundreds of Turks celebrated in the streets of central Ankara, shouting anti-U.S. slogans.

"We are all Iraqis . . We ill not kill, we will not die," they chanted. They also accused the Islamic-rooted Justice party of "collaborating with Washinton.

Washington had been so sure of winning approval from close ally and NATO member Turkey, that ships carrying U.S. tanks are waiting off Turkeys' coast for deployment and the U.S. military has thousands of tons of military equipment ready to unload at the southern Turksih port of Iskenderun.

For weeks, the Bush administration had been pressing Turkey to agree to a possible northern front, which would split Saddam Hussein's army between the north and the south, likely making a war shorter and less bloody.

The motion would have empowered Turkey's gobernment to authorize the basing of up to 62,000 troops, 255 warplanes, and 65 helicopters. In exchange, Washington promised $15 billion in loans and grants to cushion the Turkish economy from impact of war.

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Turkey also wants U.S. troops to take over the Kirkuk and Mosul oil fields.

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An invitation to mayhem Potential for Turk-Kurd conflict after Saddam

20 posted on 03/04/2003 8:04:24 AM PST by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
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