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TLBSHOW is wrong -- the original Fox report was wrong as it said that it was an historic vote to end the filibuster on Wednesday night.

The only votes taken were for Qurorum Calls! There was no cloture vote scheduled as there has to be an advance notice of 48 hour to have a cloture vote not to mention because people yield the floor, it is not a full blown filibuster.

Sen Frist puts the Senate into Executive Session to debate the Estrada nomination. That is not a filibuster!

I could have taken the Fox story and torn it apart for what I knew to be fact and now looking back I should have done more than talk about the first three paragraphs of the original Fox story that was wrong.

TLBSHOW is wrong if he says the original Fox story was right! Earlier in this thread I took the first three paragraphs of the original story and told why they were wrong!

This is has got to be the dumbest discussion yet. We are now expected to take the word of Fox News Channel over the word of Senatorial offices. Not to mention that I personally took apart the first part of the Fox story.

I saw that entire debate and know there was NO cloture vote that night! All Sen Frist did was call for a Quorum Call and for Unanimous Concent to vote which was objected to by the RATs.

Now how many more times to I have to post on here that the original Fox story was WRONG, Rush was WRONG originally because he followed the FOX STORY WHICH WAS WRONG, and two Senate offices corrected the Fox Story.

If TLBSHOW is right in what he surmises in #354, Garrett and FoxNews may not have been mistaken in their report.

Since I have demonstrated, using the National Review, that no vote was ever scheduled, no cave ever contemplated, plus cited numerous Senators and the President prior to Rush's show airing, TLBSHOW's contention has been PROVED demonstrably false. Yet he persists in repeating himself over and over and over in the face of proof positive of numerous errors in the Fox story. And the timing of my and others' citations dating to before Rush opined and could have been an influence on the course of events.

Frankly, I am shocked at Rush staking his opinion on one article. As I say again, most of us used MULTIPLE sources that all point to these undeniable truths: No vote on cloture was scheduled, and certainly no cave by the Republicans was in the works.