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Terrorism and the First Amendment (re: BBall player protesting flag) - BARF Alert
Massachusetts Daily Collegian (U. Massachusetts-Amherst) (Figures...) ^ | 2/27/03 | Jamie Loo

Posted on 02/28/2003 10:20:04 AM PST by NorCoGOP

AMHERST, Mass. -- Toni Smith is senior sociology major from New York City, but she is no ordinary student. She is the 5-foot-10 forward and captain of the Manhattanville College women's basketball team. Smith is openly against the war, and has made it a point for everyone to know.

Since the start of the season, Smith has refused to face the flag during the Star-Spangled Banner at the start of games. Without fail, at each game both at home and away, she has turned 90 degrees away from the flag and has cast her eyes to the ground. Her protest isn't just against the war but against "inequalities" that exist in the American system. She also feels that the government's priorities are not on improving the "quality of life for all of its people, but rather on expanding its own power."

This past Saturday, during their last home game of the season, Jerry Kiley, a Vietnam war veteran, ran onto the court and held an American flag in front of Smith, while she was lining up for another player to shoot a free throw.

"She disgraced herself and she disgraced flag," said Kiley.

I believe Kiley was the one who disgraced himself.

Kiley isn't the only one who has openly opposed Smith's protest. At a recent game the Mount St. Mary student government bought more than $100 worth of small flags, and distributed them before the game. More than 500 students waved the flags and jeered at Smith at every opportunity they could get. At the close of the game, fans sung "God Bless America."

I think the student government association at Mount St. Mary is a bunch of hypocrites.

During their Feb. 11 game at the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy, the stands were packed with over 300 people, which was a record turnout. Fans were once again toting flags, and at halftime, 50 flag carrying students stood across from the Manhattanville bench until the game was over. Smith was also greeted with chants of "U.S.A." and "Leave our country." USMMA sports information director Kim McNulty said, "We were proud of the professionalism with which the midshipmen displayed their feelings. They did nothing to offend or make the game an unsafe atmosphere. They were expressing their opinion."

Proud? They should be ashamed of themselves.

The First Amendment guarantees us the right to free speech and free expression. Smith's protest is protected by the Constitution and she has the right to turn away from the flag if she wishes. Kiley and the students at those games also have the right to disagree with her. However, I don't believe this manner of protest was the way to go about it. I think that the waving of these flags in order to purposefully upset Smith is completely disrespectful.

It's a terrorism of her right to free speech. When you terrorize someone or something you are striking fear in them in some way. I bet Smith could care less at this point; after all that she's been through I doubt that she's fearful. However, that still doesn't make these actions right.

It's not like Smith was taking out a lighter and burning the stars and stripes before each game. She's simply turning away from the flag. Kiley can disagree all he wants, but he has no right to disrespect her right to her opinion by shoving a flag in her face. Smith was doing a peaceful act, while Kiley's act was one to strike terror and make her feel bad about her opinion. And no one should have to feel bad about his/her opinion.

Kiley, the USMMA and the Mount St. Mary student government are hypocrites for claiming their first amendment right is more important than Smith's. Agree or disagree with the government, the first amendment protects us all. Smith isn't being un-American by dissenting. She has the right to express her opinion in peace, and not be harassed by people with flags in her face. Those same people have the right to peaceably support the war and not have someone like Smith burning a flag on their lawns. It's not a matter of whose wrong or right, but a matter of respecting the other side's opinion.

And when you really look at the Constitution as a whole, it's the same document that grants our government the power to go to war. We have the power to go to war, and we have the choice to support the government or to dissent. The flag is simply a symbol. Everybody involved in this is fighting for the same thing really; upholding the ideals of the Constitution.

In a statement about her protest Smith wrote, "It is my right as an American to stand for my beliefs the way others have done against me... patriotism can be shown in many ways, but those who choose to do so by saluting the flag should recognize that the American flag stands for individuality and freedom. Therefore, any true patriot must acknowledge and respect my right to be different."

Information from The Journal News and Newsday was used in this opinion.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: manhattanville; usmma

1 posted on 02/28/2003 10:20:04 AM PST by NorCoGOP
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To: NorCoGOP
sounds like this person beleives that the first ammendment only applies to little miss muffet here and people who agree with her, but not to those who dare to love their country.
2 posted on 02/28/2003 10:23:22 AM PST by camle (no camle jokes, please...OK, maybe one little one)
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To: NorCoGOP
LOL bump. The lefties can dish it out but they can't take it. ("Protest is great - unless it's against us!")
3 posted on 02/28/2003 10:25:55 AM PST by talleyman (Send in the Merchant Marines!)
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To: camle
A camle bit my sister once
(Is that little enough?)
4 posted on 02/28/2003 10:27:52 AM PST by talleyman (Send in the Merchant Marines!)
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To: talleyman
LOL~!

the answer would depend upon a few things:

1) How old is she
2) Where she was bit
3) did she enjoy it
4) where was the moose at the time, and why wasn't HE on the job?
5 posted on 02/28/2003 10:30:17 AM PST by camle (no camle jokes, please...OK, maybe one little one)
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To: opticoax
ugh! Geez man! I just ate!
7 posted on 02/28/2003 10:36:54 AM PST by camle (no camle jokes, please...OK, maybe one little one)
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To: NorCoGOP
why are people making such a big deal out of this girl?

I hope her feelings of sainthood and martyrdom are incredibly satisfying for her and she never grows up to realizes how IRRELEVANT her little stance is.
8 posted on 02/28/2003 10:48:27 AM PST by lizm_77
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To: camle
1) She's 39 going on 14
2) Behind the holly
3) No, the holly leaves were sharp & pointy
4) The moose was eating my cheese
9 posted on 02/28/2003 10:49:12 AM PST by talleyman (Geriatric honeymoon resort: "Viagra Falls")
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To: NorCoGOP
If she wants to protest "inequalities" in American society, she might start with affirmative action.
10 posted on 02/28/2003 10:59:47 AM PST by laconic
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To: NorCoGOP
If she wants to protest the "inequalities" in American society, let her start with affirmative action.
11 posted on 02/28/2003 11:01:13 AM PST by laconic
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To: NorCoGOP
Toni Smith is senior sociology major

Of course she is. She certainly doesn't know anything about History.

12 posted on 02/28/2003 11:07:38 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: NorCoGOP
I have no problem with what the students at the two colleges did, but the guy who ran out on the floor during the game was way out of line and deserved to get busted.
13 posted on 02/28/2003 11:36:50 AM PST by RonF
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To: talleyman
sounds like you have a moose problem.
14 posted on 02/28/2003 11:52:34 AM PST by camle (no camle jokes, please...OK, maybe one little one)
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To: NorCoGOP
Toni Smith should go over to Iraq and try this.
15 posted on 02/28/2003 12:58:09 PM PST by appalachian_dweller (Those who sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither.)
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To: NorCoGOP
"Smith is openly against the war, and has made it a point for everyone to know."


"ARE THEY FOR US OR AGAINST US?" (Updated Daily.)

16 posted on 02/28/2003 1:40:10 PM PST by Cindy
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To: NorCoGOP
huh?
"It's a terrorism of her right to free speech."
WTF??? equating some dude waving a flag in this chick's face with killing civilians... nice.
17 posted on 02/28/2003 4:45:50 PM PST by billsux
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To: NorCoGOP
I can't believe that this silly little girl continues to get all this attention. Her stance has all the intellectual depth of a puddle in a parking lot, as evidenced by her favorite quote: "It would be a great day if the schools had all the money they needed and the military had to hold a bake sale to buy a bomber." That told me all I needed to know about the young lady. As for her gesture, she is clearly getting some kind of charge out of being contrary and going against the grain.

And I love how all the constitutional experts come down from their ivory towers to lecture the rest of us on the First Amendment. They seem to forget that the First Amendment goes both ways. Sure, she can turn away from the flag if she feels like it. She can give it the finger. She can even pull up her jersey and flash her boobies at it, and someone will jump to her defense and call it protected speech. But nowhere in the First Amendment does it say that people have the right not to be criticized for whatever statements they may make. Those of us who disagree with her have rights too. I have just as much right to call her a silly child. It might hurt her pwecious widdle feelings, but hey, she'll live.
18 posted on 03/01/2003 12:16:06 AM PST by Rainbow Rising (Give pizza a chance.)
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To: camle
Seems like she should of been reprimanded for bringing her political crap onto the playing field... remember the Olympic medalists during the 68' games? They lost their medals, as I think she should be barred from playing for embarrassing and insulting her country. Protest on your own time, not in sports... by the way, our tax dollars fund these instituitions of lower learning!
19 posted on 03/01/2003 12:45:41 AM PST by Terridan
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To: camle
sounds like you have a moose problem.

Moose lips sink ships.

20 posted on 03/01/2003 3:39:24 PM PST by talleyman (Tag lines of the rich & famous)
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