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Flights around Bloomington (Indiana) raise concerns
Indy Star ^ | 2/27/03 | AP

Posted on 02/27/2003 8:15:58 AM PST by agenda_express

Edited on 05/07/2004 6:26:40 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

BLOOMINGTON, Ind. -- Aviation officials said they could not disclose the purpose of a small aircraft whose night flights over Bloomington have raised terrorist worries among residents.

The white, single-engine propeller airplane has been circling the city of 69,000 late at night and about noon recently, The Herald-Times reported today.


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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Indiana; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bloomington; flights; government; hoosierjihad; indiana; snoops; terror; terrorist
Interesting...
1 posted on 02/27/2003 8:16:00 AM PST by agenda_express
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To: agenda_express
The white, single-engine propeller airplane has been circling the city

Isn't that racial profiling??? Where's the outrage???

2 posted on 02/27/2003 8:19:35 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Matt: "Ye should salt the Earth, lest it lose it's flavour")
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To: agenda_express
What am I missing here?
3 posted on 02/27/2003 8:25:14 AM PST by banjo joe
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To: agenda_express
Probly a Civil Air Patrol bird. CAP has been tasked with surveilance in addition to normal ops after 9-11. We have a CAP wing thats fairly active based out of KSWF.
4 posted on 02/27/2003 8:25:59 AM PST by JETDRVR
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To: agenda_express
Perhaps it's Democrat Governor Frank O'Bannon seeking his former high poll numbers.
5 posted on 02/27/2003 8:30:56 AM PST by curmudgeonII
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To: agenda_express
OOD: "Son,why did you order a crash dive on my boat?"

Lookout: "Sir, there's a Jap Zero coming in out of the sun!!"

OOD: (looking through binoculars) "Son, that's a damn seagull."

6 posted on 02/27/2003 8:31:58 AM PST by Jonah Hex
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To: agenda_express
A quick run on the tail number will tell you exactly whose plane it is.

Are there any pictures of the plane?

7 posted on 02/27/2003 9:29:36 AM PST by Triple (All forms of socialism deny individuals the right to the fruits of their labor)
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To: agenda_express
"would only describe the flights as "law enforcement surveillance."

Do not be afraid. They are only taking thermal photographs to map the locations of all sleeping bodies in your community. They are also noting where your dogs sleep. (sarcasm off)

8 posted on 02/27/2003 9:42:53 AM PST by Deguello (Armadillo, the other white meat.)
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Makes me long for the good old days when all we had to worry about was contrails dripping mystery webs from the skies.
9 posted on 02/27/2003 9:52:38 AM PST by drjimmy
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To: agenda_express
They just had a meth bust in my county, 75 or so miles southwest of Bloomington. They did it from aerial surveillance. There are a lot of hills and hollers up there, so maybe that's what they are up to. It's definitely to cold to be searching for pot growers. This happens in July through October.

Another thought is they could be doing speed checks. They do this a lot around here. The cops have been going crazy in our county this week nabbing speeders. In fact, this morning, one deputy sheriff turned on an unmarked State Police car and started to chase him down. The State Police car was doing 79 in a 55. They finally figured it out. It's amazing how cops can get away with speeding like this, but I guess that's another thread.

10 posted on 02/27/2003 9:56:12 AM PST by freedom4ever
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Cops are subject to the same laws we are. If I encounter a cop driving over the speed limit with no lights or siren on, then I match his speed. I've yet to be pulled over. Also, we get the guys out here who like to drive 5 mph under the limit. Nobody has the guts to go around them. I have no problem going around them at the legal limit.
11 posted on 02/27/2003 10:23:00 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Go Fast, Turn Left!)
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Also, we get the guys out here who like to drive 5 mph under the limit. Nobody has the guts to go around them. I have no problem going around them at the legal limit.

NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.....just doing the proscribed speed limit.....besides, it's fun to watch the mirror as the sheeple jockey for position behind "Smokey the Pace Car"....they're driving "confused" !!

12 posted on 02/27/2003 11:24:04 AM PST by Ku Commando
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To: Ku Commando; IYAS9YAS; freedom4ever; drjimmy; Deguello; Triple; Jonah Hex; curmudgeonII; JETDRVR; ..
FOLLOW-UP ARTICLE POSTED TODAY:

http://www.indystar.com/print/articles/9/025876-3729-092.html

Plane part of anti-terrorism efforts, FBI says

Associated Press
February 28, 2003

BLOOMINGTON, Ind. -- An airplane seen flying above this college town every day for more than a week is being used by the FBI as part of anti-terrorism surveillance, agency officials said.

Many of those being watched are foreign nationals, FBI agents Thomas V. Fuentes and James H. Davis told The Herald-Times for a story today.

Fuentes and Davis said the FBI is not aware of any specific terrorist threat directed toward Bloomington or Indiana.

FBI agents also have questioned several foreign students at Indiana University in recent weeks. Agency spokesman Doug Garrison would not say if those interviews were related to national security or to the airplane's flights.

Residents in the city of 69,000 have seen the white single-engine Cessna 182 at least since Feb. 19 making passes overhead about noon, in the late evening and after midnight.

Aviation officials had said earlier this week they were aware of the airplane but could not discuss it.

The FBI initially denied owning the aircraft. Fuentes said that was because a reporter had asked an agent if the FBI had an airplane doing electronic surveillance in Bloomington.

The aircraft does not carry any electronic monitoring equipment or weapons-detection systems, the officials said.

"There should be no concern that the aircraft is doing anything other than assisting with physical surveillance," Davis said.

FBI officials said the aircraft was conducting surveillance flights over several communities. Fuentes said it was based in "the general Indianapolis area." Bloomington is about 40 miles south of Indianapolis.

Fuentes said the flights and some of the interviews were in response to intelligence indicating the possibility of terrorist attacks inside and outside the country if the United States invades Iraq.

"We're talking to a lot of people all over the state," he said.

Bloomington, the home of Indiana University's flagship campus, has more than 3,300 students from foreign countries, according to information posted on IU's Web site.

About 12,000 international students are enrolled in about 40 Indiana private and public colleges. They are primarily from China, India, Korea, Indonesia and Taiwan.

The airplane is not being used to watch anti-war protesters, Fuentes said.

The aircraft is monitoring individuals, vehicles and businesses -- particularly those open late at night from which faxes or e-mails can be sent, the officials said.

Fuentes declined to say if the FBI was conducting electronic surveillance at ground level.

FBI agents also have interviewed international students both on and off campus in the past several weeks, said Bob Weith, the university's director of residential operations.

IU interim President Gerald Bepko said officials were aware of the FBI's presence on campus and have been cooperating with the agency.

"We know they've been very busy," Bepko said. "What we don't know is if they're doing anything different than they would at any university with a large number of international students."

Federal agents have increased their presence on college campuses since Sept. 11, 2001. Also, the FBI last month began questioning up to 50,000 Iraqis living in the United States.

There are no Iraqi students enrolled at IU, said Christopher Viers, director of the university's Office of International Services.

FBI agents have visited a Bloomington mosque and interviewed several IU students from the Middle East during the past year, said Amr Sabry, president of the Islamic Center in Bloomington.

Sabry said the visits were friendly. However, he said there had been at least two occasions when younger students were upset about the questioning.

"They were pretty shaken when they came and talked to me," he said.

13 posted on 02/28/2003 10:01:48 AM PST by agenda_express
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