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TCPA: Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid (if you use a PC)
macmegasite ^ | 02/23/2003

Posted on 02/23/2003 7:08:02 PM PST by gaucho

Here's yet another reason to be glad we don't use a Microsoft OS. The Trusted Computing Platform Alliance, headed by Microsoft & Intel, provides both hardware and software standards that will allow only licensed operating systems to run on a machine. This means unlicensed operating systems such as Linx can no longer even be installed on a TCPA-compliant system.

In a not so distant future (2004) the TCPA hardware will take charge, when you turn on your PC. This onboard chipset checks the integrity of your boot ROM, executes it and measures the state of the machine. After that, it checks the booting process of your operating system. If the chipset detects a TCPA-compliant OS it will load and execute it. Furthermore, the chipset maintains a list of your hardware (means: soundcard, videocard etc.) and checks them for TCPA-compliance, too. So, let's assume, Fritz (remember? the name of the chipset) detects, that all the stuff in your PC is on the TCPA-approved list, it will be finally happy and boot your system to the login screen. Be careful: If there are significant hardware changes, you will have to go online and re-certify your machine (like XP does).

After the booting process, Fritz hands over the control to the software part of TCPA: Palladium.

This piece of Operating-System-Integrated software is going to determine what you are allowed to do with "your" PC. Let's say: What you are not allowed to do with. Before you can start an application or open a document, it checks wether it thinks you are allowed to or not. No, that's no joke. It really does. Via the Internet, Palladium keeps an up-to-date list of software (the blacklist), you can't start. One can imagine what's on that list. e.g: every kind of cracking / hacking software, illegal copies and so on. Sounds like Microsoft installed a DRM via the backdoor? And that's not even all it is. Every PC with a Fritz chip has an unique ID. Only the software you bought for THIS ID (means: your PC) would be able to run. There's not even the chance to sell software you don't use anymore. Palladium / Fritz won't allow it to run on ANY other machine. There's also a blacklist for documents. Imagine: You're not able to play one of your thousand MP3's anymore, because they don't have a valid certificate, even though the original CD sits in your rack. Not one of your Movies. You also gave Microsoft the permission to delete all the files, once it has found them. You don't believe me? Read the last EULA of your Media Player.

For more information, visit http://www.notcpa.org/.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Technical
KEYWORDS: drm; intel; linux; microsoft; monopoly; msftislikeapple; palladium; privacy; tcpa
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To: gaucho
I just bought an iMAC. I'm ready to commit suicide. There are SO MANY problems with the operating system, I don't know where to start. I'd give anything to have my Windows PC operational again.

Please do yourself a big favor and don't buy an iMAC with OS X. If you're used to a PC, you won't be able to make the transition. It's just too radical. It's a nightmare. I'm totally stressed out.

Want a list of the problems? Here are just a few:

You can't SEE anything. The print on the toolbars is microscopic. You can't change the size of the text on the toolbars. You're stuck with what's there. You can't enlarge the scrollbars.

There's also no inner stuff like on Windows. No seeing the C drive and all of its contents. Virtually everything on the computer is hidden. Inaccessible.

You can't delete anything. If you make a mistake when you first sign on as a user, then try to delete it, forget it. Your deleted folder stays there forever.

The stupid "dock". It pops up when you least expect it. If you have it hidden, it will still pop up unexpectedly if you accidently move the cursor over its hiding place. And you can't open Internet Explorer from the toolbar. You have to go to the dock.

You can't delete your cookies in a batch. You have to delete them manually one-by-one. I'm serious. What a pain.

The mouse it comes with doesn't have a right side or a left side; it's all one piece. So you can't right-click anything. This means you can't save images, or copy text, or do anything.

You can't keep the screen full-size. It cuts off an 1/8 of an inch on the right side, and on the bottom. You can resize it, but it will always revert back.

And again, everything is tiny tiny tiny. Microscopic.

The computer is just a big expensive dud. It does nothing that I'm used to. I'm already thinking about selling it, and I've only had it up a day or two.

Oh, and I forgot to mention the LOUD GONG that starts the log-in. No way of getting rid of that sound. Someone on the apple website asked about that, too, and there was no solution.

And, if you want to change fonts (the appearance of a page), it will take you a very long time because the box closes out after each test. You have to keep going up to the toolbar to reopen the box again.

There are many more problems. These are just a few.
41 posted on 02/24/2003 12:04:25 AM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: TheBattman
Huh? I've never experienced such a thing and have been a Mac user for 9 years. No spyware, no hardware keyed software, no back-door security intrusions. Heck, I've not even had a virus on my computer in 8 years (and no extra measures against them).

Of course not: Hackers and spies don't target irrelevant platforms that almost nobody uses...
42 posted on 02/24/2003 12:23:39 AM PST by Bush2000
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To: Bogey78O
But oddly enough MS wants to treat PCs as if the user is only leasing it from MS.

Well, that is partly true. While you own the hardware, you don't own the operating system. What you buy is a license that allows you to use Microsoft's software. Microsoft owns the operating system software. You just buy the right to use something that belongs to them.

That has always been the case. They are just coming up with new ways to make sure you comply with the license. If you don't like that arrangement, then buy different hardware that will allow you to install whatever operating system you want. You don't have to buy Intel processors. And Linux is certainly an option for a different operating system.

43 posted on 02/24/2003 12:25:09 AM PST by stripes1776
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To: MikeWUSAF
Sounds to me like the HARDWARE is being monopolized as well to only run MS.

Didn't these holes learn from this recent time in court?

They will be going back in again. I'll bet Gates needs guards the way he keeps trying to play hard-ball with all the other smaller guys. Seems a dangerous way to do business for him on a personal basis.
44 posted on 02/24/2003 12:39:58 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: gaucho
Everyone calm down, Microsoft and Intel are experiencing the same type of arrogance that lead to the downfall of IBM.

I suggest if any of you have stocks in these two companies, you should think about cashing out because the consumers are not as stupid as Microsoft and Intel thinks they are.

45 posted on 02/24/2003 1:19:25 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Bush2000
Seems like Mac users will never be happy unless they can bash other operating systems...

Not sure where they Mac comment comes from, as they would also prevent other operating systems such as Linux from working in this environment.
46 posted on 02/24/2003 2:59:10 AM PST by gaucho
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To: Paul C. Jesup
Microsoft and Intel are experiencing the same type of arrogance that lead to the downfall of IBM.

What downfall? Can't you read an annual report?

47 posted on 02/24/2003 3:08:26 AM PST by Glenn
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To: gaucho
as they would also prevent other operating systems such as Linux from working in this environment.

What?

48 posted on 02/24/2003 3:09:27 AM PST by Glenn
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To: Bush2000
My bush2000, you look lovely in that picture - is that you on the left?

I find that a pretty offensive insinuation to all the Unix, Linux, Mac, as400, etc users there.
49 posted on 02/24/2003 3:11:51 AM PST by gaucho
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To: Bush2000
Seems like Mac users will never be happy unless they can bash other operating systems...

You've got it all wrong. Macs coexist with Windows. I can use Novell on PC and Mac. I can use Lotus Notes on PC and Mac. I can share drives on PCs and Macs. You and dcam started in on Mac users without a single Mac comment being posted.

50 posted on 02/24/2003 3:13:08 AM PST by Glenn
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To: enfield
I'd buy an Apple, but I'm not Gay

But you are an ass.

Where do we get these freaking morons?

51 posted on 02/24/2003 3:16:23 AM PST by Glenn
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To: MikeWUSAF
Try Mac 10.2, installed 3 months ago no freezes no crashes, very fast.
52 posted on 02/24/2003 3:17:20 AM PST by RWG
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To: MikeWUSAF
"Then some hacker will find a way around it or people will stop buying Microsoft's software."

Or more likely, they will stop buying the HARDwARE that incorporates it (i.e. the chipset). This is as much Intel as Microsoft.

I too have bought my last Microsoft operating system, but because of their outrageous licensing terms.

53 posted on 02/24/2003 3:24:24 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: enfield
A purely non-technical view:

1. my new Dell laptop with XP takes about 20 seconds longer to boot than a slower desktop with W98se. Also slower than the latest release of RH Linux.

I'd call Dell tech support if I were you. I run XP along with Win95, 98, and RH 8.0 on my test box here and XP is the fastest to boot.

2. My Dell with XP is always trying to "call home". It got away from me before I loaded Mozilla, and now keeps pestering me to load "updates" to my Microshaft software that I don't want.

Control Panel/System/Automatic Updates - uncheck the box that says "Keep my computer up to date", if this bothers you.

3. After installing Linux in seperate partitions (OS & swap), XP decided to reformat those partitions before I could stop it.

Employ an exorcist. I dual and quad boot XP with about every flavor of Linux out there and have NEVER had XP reformat anything I told it not to.

Perhaps by "non-technical view" you meant you had an aversion to RTFM?

54 posted on 02/24/2003 3:55:14 AM PST by Leroy S. Mort
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To: wirestripper
Work with your XP, and make sure you get the updates auto loaded.

I hae XPHome and have been happy for the most part. But suddenly I have 2 probs, that I haven't investigated thoroughly yet.

One, the most recent set of updates trashes my machine when I try to install it. I get all sorts of warnings of the general form "AD9Ef-XXXXXXXXX-Yadda could not be written -- the data has been lost" and then scandisk comes on when it reboots and for some reason, no keystrokes will stop scandisk. This has happened 4 times, all with this most recent set of updates. My DVD player has been behaving erratically ever since the first time it happened.

The other is a popup dialog that comes up at odd times advertising male "member" enlargement. It has popped up twice while I was browsing FR. Spy++ indicates that the dialog is a child of the desktop, no process to kill. I have heard of a trojan that does that, and my daughter or one of her friends could unwittingly have downloaded one, but I did not find the file indicated to be the culprit, so I may have a new one.

For all I know, the two problems are related. The timing is certainly a coincidence.

Other than those two recent(but very troubling) problems, I have been happy with XP, once configured to be a little less dummy-fied.

I have another machine(older), that has win98SE on it. I think I am going to set it up with linux eventually, just for kicks.

55 posted on 02/24/2003 3:56:05 AM PST by Yeti
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To: Glenn
If you compare the percentage of the computer market that IBM controls today to the percentage of the computer market they control in the early 80's, you would release the meaning of what I stated in my previous post.
56 posted on 02/24/2003 4:16:23 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup
you would release the meaning of what I stated in my previous post.

I've already "released" your meaning. IBM is hardly on the skids. They're doing just fine for their stockholders. Before the PC, they were the evil monopoly pursued by the government until Reagan finally shut all that nonsense down. Using a percentage of the computer market from the 80's is foo comparison.

57 posted on 02/24/2003 5:02:16 AM PST by Glenn
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To: Glenn
Using a percentage of the computer market from the 80's is foo comparison

No it is a good comparison of how history might repeat itself. My point was if Microsoft and Intel continue down the road they have chosen they may lose a good percentage of their consumer base by alienating their costumers.

58 posted on 02/24/2003 5:20:47 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
Oh my, I would be tearing my hair out. I change fonts and screen size and tool bar type size, I delete cookies by batch. You can't cut and paste? Put that baby on Ebay, lol.
59 posted on 02/24/2003 7:11:33 AM PST by madfly
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To: shezza
Bump!
60 posted on 02/24/2003 7:22:31 AM PST by shezza
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