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Vintage Skulls
Archaeology Magazine ^
| March/April 2003
| Colleen P. Popson
Posted on 02/22/2003 9:06:38 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
BTTT
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posted on
02/22/2003 11:59:53 AM PST
by
cibco
(Xin Loi... Iraq)
To: blam
A bump reading? Sure, why not some phrenology on the weekend.
I never heard of Ainu, but from the images posted they appear to be Persian. This is somewhat odd to me since Persians look like the Flemish, which is my heritage. Pictures of Iranian leaders look a lot like pictures in my family album, and that is doubly odd since my family originally emigrated from the moors of England to Massachusetts a long time ago after presumably emigrating from Flanders to England.
What does it mean? Not much except that humans were migrating all over the planet long before written records became common. 13,000 years? Current events to old goats.
To: blam
Interesting stuff. Clovis Man has pretty much lost his claim to being here first.
Maybe we need to evict the Indians from their reservations as squatters.
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posted on
02/22/2003 12:23:58 PM PST
by
Dog Gone
To: blam
bump
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posted on
02/22/2003 12:39:39 PM PST
by
vannrox
(The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
To: blam
DNA tests on these skulls would help solve the mystery.
Were these people ancestors of the Indians, or were they replaced by them? Maybe they went extinct from some other cause before the Indians ever arrived. Remember that just about every large ground-living mammal in the Americas suddenly died out either just before or just as the Clovis culture people arrived. Did whatever wiped out those animals wipe out the pre-indian inhabitants of the Americas? Did it wipe out the people who once lived in China, which one poster pointed out "did not look like the Chineses today"?
Something happened to those animals. Some thing it was man, but much of mankind seems to have been a victim of something as well. Populations get replaced by their modern counterparts at this time.
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posted on
02/22/2003 12:42:23 PM PST
by
Ahban
To: Dog Gone
Ainu There are about 10k Ainu still living on the Japanese island of Hokkaido
Also, I haven't read it elsewhere but Dr Scoch said that the Olmec sites in Mexico contain "cord" type pottery which is distinct to the Jomon of prehistory Japan.
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posted on
02/22/2003 12:45:11 PM PST
by
blam
To: blam
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posted on
02/22/2003 12:52:41 PM PST
by
blam
To: blam
This suggests archaeologists should be looking in older geological strata." Seems like a lot of folks, including quite a few here, have been saying that for a long time. It's hard to shake up the Establishment.
To: RightWhale
An Ainu Man (Related to Kennewick Man)
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posted on
02/22/2003 1:05:35 PM PST
by
blam
To: Bernard Marx
"Seems like a lot of folks, including quite a few here, have been saying that for a long time. It's hard to shake up the Establishment." Yup. That's what happened at either the Cactus Hill or Topper site, they got to the Clovis level and stopped. After the word from Monte Verde,35,000 year old artifacts, they went back and dug some more and found artifacts older than Clovis.
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posted on
02/22/2003 1:13:40 PM PST
by
blam
To: Eastbound
See my comment in post #26. It relates to the other thread we've been commenting on.
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posted on
02/22/2003 1:47:53 PM PST
by
blam
To: blam
Ainu? Wonder if this is a contraction or form of 'Anu?' Anu, head of the ancient pantheon, was the grandfather of Nin.Gish.Zida, who also was known by different names by different cultures as 'Thoth,' and more recently as 'Quetzlcoatl' in Meso-America -- the Pyramid Builder. Were the Ainu another group of Mesopotamian survivors migrating to India, Russia and Asia? Is the world getting smaller and the history books thicker, or what?
To: blam
BUMP!!!
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posted on
02/22/2003 3:01:02 PM PST
by
manna
To: blam
That picture you posted looks just like a deceased friend of mine, beard and all. He was of French descent.
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posted on
02/22/2003 3:33:49 PM PST
by
JudyB1938
(It's a wild world. There's a lot of bad and beware.)
To: Eastbound
"Were the Ainu another group of Mesopotamian survivors migrating to India, Russia and Asia? " I believe there have been numerous waves of Proto-Europeans across the Russian/Asian steppes like the Ainu, Jomon and most recently these: The Takla Makan Mummies.
I believe some of these early waves made it across the 'top' and we're finding them now as Kennewick Man, Spirit Cave Man and etc.
I'm beginning to think there was a time when there were more proto-Europeans in Asian than there were Asians.(as we know them today.)
There's an excellent book by Victor Mair about these mummies titled: The Tarim Mummies. I believe the Tarim Mummies are refugees from the Black Sea flood in 5,600BC.
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posted on
02/22/2003 4:18:16 PM PST
by
blam
To: blam
Nice pictue of Heidi's grandfather!!!
To: fish hawk
"Nice pictue of Heidi's grandfather!!!" Tell me!
That picture was taken from the Ainu Museum site.
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posted on
02/22/2003 4:29:35 PM PST
by
blam
To: blam
Geeky hat. Otherwise looks like my great grandfather.
To: 4mer Liberal
Hamlet ping :-)
To: blam
bump
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posted on
02/22/2003 7:08:41 PM PST
by
facedown
(Armed in the Heartland)
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