That’s utter nonsence. Where do you get these crazy ideas. I have been going by my recollection of agreements as reported in the news. My further recollection is that Israel has reneged on some of its signed agreements.
Have fun with your recollections, post the facts here when you come up with them.
One way or another, I don't think there will be peace as long as there is confiscation of civilian property.
Sure did, they threw all the Jew *astards out of their countries and confiscated their property. You’re right, shows me they’re not Jewhaters. As the Israelis did to the Arabs who were living in Palestine. I don't condone either action. Do you?
I’m sure there were some arabs who left out of fear, or were driven out. But the fact is every leader throughout the Arab world called for them to leave the mandate area, to facilitate a “free fire zone” enviornment to kill the Jews, with the promise that upon return they could claim the homes of the recently departed Jews. That’s fact, not recollection. Things just didn’t work out the arab way. Tens of millions of refugees resettled after WWII, all of them other than 600,000 arabs, and it’s all Israel’s fault. Right.
The Palestinian reached parity with the non-Palestinian Israeli? Why continue to bring the non-Arab world into it? We might compare some US citizens with Mexican standard of living, as proof that everything is OK. But it's not relevant. What's relevant is parity within the jurisdiction. I don't see you claiming that-- just sliding around it, not very well.
Sure it is. Israeli Arabs have the same rights as any other Israelis, and a higher standard of living than the rest of the arab world. Arabs in the territories had the same standard of living, prior to waging war. Mexicans, heck they love to come here, legally or illegally to raise their standard of living.
Whoa there! We were stark neutral for the first 125 years (minus forays like 1898). So what did the first 125 years worth of presidents know that you apparently missed from the policy?
Apparently a lot, everything from the Halls of Montezuma to the Shores of Tripoli, including the war of 1812, and Monroe’s rightful doctrine that we’d kick the *ss of any European nation daring to seek influence in our hemisphere. Not exactly neutral.
It is nice that we have friends. I am not saying don't have friends. I am just saying don't have entangling alliances, just as Washington says, and how presidents after him interpreted it for the first 125 years. Apparently you have problems not just with me and my interpretation, but with US history in general. Good luck!
It’s my opinion that old George (who made his speech in the context of criticism for not aiding France in their ongoing war against England, in recognition of their help during the Revolution. As you may or may not know, we ended up taking sides in 1812) would have recognized our loss of oceanic insularity about the time Monroe did.
His opinions on America keeping true to her alliances are clear. Sure, clearly your are the bearer of the truth, I’m factually challenged. I’ll let anyone reading this thread draw their own conclusions.
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As avenues to foreign influence in innumerable ways, such attachments are particularly alarming to the truly enlightened and independent Patriot….
The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign Nations, is, in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little Political connection as possible.-So far as we have already formed engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith.-Here let us stop…-
Our detached and distant situation invites and enables us to pursue a different course.-If we remain one People, under an efficient government, the period is not far off, when we may defy material injury from external annoyance; when we may take such an attitude as will cause the neutrality we may at any time resolve upon to be scrupulously respected. When belligerent nations, under the impossibility of making acquisitions upon us, will not lightly hazard the giving us provocation when we may choose peace or war, as our interest, guided by our justice, shall counsel.
Why forego the advantages of so peculiar a situation ?-Why quit our own to stand upon foreign ground?-Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humor, or caprice?-
'Tis our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances, with any portion of the foreign world;-so far, I mean, as we are now at liberty to do it;-for let me not be understood as capable of patronizing infidelity to existing engagements. (I hold the maxim no less applicable to public than to private affairs, that honesty is always the best policy.)-I repeat it therefore let those engagements be observed in their genuine sense.-But in my opinion it is unnecessary and would be unwise to extend them.-
It’s my opinion that old George (who made his speech in the context of criticism for not aiding France in their ongoing war against England, in recognition of their help during the Revolution. As you may or may not know, we ended up taking sides in 1812) would have recognized our loss of oceanic insularity about the time Monroe did.
Looks like I was actually quoting Jefferson's Inaguaral:
"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations- entangling alliances with none."
There, did I get that right? Did I interpret it correctly, Professor?
His opinions on America keeping true to her alliances are clear. Sure, clearly your are the bearer of the truth, I’m factually challenged. I’ll let anyone reading this thread draw their own conclusions. ===================================================== As avenues to foreign influence in innumerable ways, such attachments are particularly alarming to the truly enlightened and independent Patriot…. The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign Nations, is, in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little Political connection as possible.-So far as we have already formed engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith.-Here let us stop…-
Well, look at that. Repeat:
Guess I wasn't so far away from Washington after all. We didn't have an Israel in 1801, did we? Correct me if I am wrong...